So I met this girl a while ago, but my oh my she is hard to crack.

Profile:

Age: 20
HBness: 9
- She missed the warm emotional connection in her last relationship, the guy was just a plain Joe.
- She claims to be eager to learn, social and caring.
- She hates jealous guys.
- She likes to flirt with other guys.

Ok, now here is the problem, this girl is a typical HB9. She's got the attitude and the looks. She asked me to come to this club where she was. She needed a hug etc. I said I'm not sure about the hug, but I am in for a party. When I arrived she was fucking dancing with this douchebag and basically ignored me. I introduced myself to this asshole, but he was giving me the looks. I said to her fine... and I left.

[ I didn't have sex with her yet, but I slept with her three times. The third night she liked me touching her, but she still did not want to fuck ]

Ok she SPAM me and asked me to come back and to stop behave so silly. There is one thing I hate and that's other males in my territory. So this fucker was still around her when I got there again. I just simply started chasing her until I met up with some friends. I danced with 2 other girls and my HB9 was busy with her boy. I bet that the whole fucking club noticed my anger level, because I could have morphed into Lucifer, seriously.

She still contacts me every day via whattsapp, asking what I'm doing, telling me whats she is doing. Sometimes she says I need a massage. I reply so you want me to give you one? She answers Yea, so bad!! Can you do me after? She answers No. Typical

I need to crack this girl! Argh!!

My sticking points:
- Other males around the girl
- Ignoring me, while she invited me
- Still trying to contact me all the time
- I want to crack her, but while I am on it I want to date/be with other woman

Bacchvs (20 year old student etc.)

You just answered your own question... I don't see where you need help?

Yeah, if you're jealous another guy is chillin with some girl you aren't dating, that can be a problem. Just stop talking to her, sounds like she isn't worth the trouble. If you don't want her talking to other dudes...well that's just unhealthy actually. But she is going to do her own thing, you can try to game her sure, but if your mad she has a life then you are in for a wild ride. And by wild I mean horrible.

Yeah, thing is I need to chill out on this thing man. And you know chilling around other guys is no problem for me heck I even introduced myself to this guy... But the fact that I got kicked out of the picture that fast, just hurts somehow (and I am fairly new to pick up)
Furthermore she decided to get physical with him... But still I appreciate your wake up call, thx bro

I guess I need to back down a little and try to have some peace with the fact that this girl is so popular. And you are making good points. What do you do when other guys hit on your girl maybe also in a physical way? And the days that I went out doing stuff with her were wild, your right. She is giving one shit test after another. I am running out of ammo...

AMOG and let him know thats your girl (Dont EVER get physical with another guy though). 99% of the time when a guy claims a girl I just leave, not worth it to find out how deep of a relationship they have and if i can steal her (and probly have him come after me). Make others assume your dating and they'll back off

AMOGing is bad, double check the definition. It's AMOG when you stick your chest out and try to act so badass, insulting dudes, etc, that you just end up looking really insecure.

Bacchvs, you never said this girl was your girlfriend. You have yet to mention you two were in a committed relationship. I have to assume that you aren't, and if that's the case then you have no standing to tell other guys off as if you were together. I will admit you have some right to be annoyed. If a girl asked me to meet her at a club and was dancing with some dude when I showed up, I'd be all WTF why am I here? But becoming enraged never ends well, especially in public. If that guy bothers you so much, either just walk away and game other girls, which you can do guilt-free because you two aren't exclusive, or get the girl. Or, next time she tells you to meet up with her, tell her no. Show her you are willing to walk away from her, because you should be.

DJ Z, I agree on every point you make. This isn't my girlfriend I need to back down. I'll give her a final chance, if she think it's funny to ignore her guest (and she claims to be social and caring (yes I asked about her qualities besides her looks ) Ill stop this charade. And yes I should have gamed other woman. And I am strongly thinking on rejected her on invitation, as you told.
I still notice that I am too needy. This skeleton comes out of the closet during day 2, 3, 4....

Thanks for the help

my bad thought AMOG meant you were the Alpha Male Of the Group, didnt know it really means be a douchebag.
Anyways What I meant is the be Alpha of The Group, make everyone LIKE YOU and want to hang around you because of your awesome presence, and because everyone wants to be around you, she should want to be around you; because if shes not your gunna forget about her like that *snap* and head to the crowd that wants you.

Don't ask her if she can do you afterwards, especially not in a text! You have no sexual frame when texting like this, and she's not thinking of it in sexual terms (or she is, but not explicitly). Taking that one step and just giving her the massage will turn her on and put her in that sexual state, so that the massage can turn into her doing you. You don't want to just come out and say stuff like that, though. I think Ross Jefferies says something about not talking about sex or trying to really turn her on unless you're with her, or else she won't associate it with you. I agree with that, and just think it's bad practice because you don't know what frame she's in.

I see what you mean Charblad and it does make sense. It's something I'll have to work on and you know there are nights that I feel like that, but there are also nights I don't. depending on venue, my own state and recalling of/ or experiencing negative things.

You and Ross share some good things. I really think anchoring is important, but this girl is so into this SPAM thing... It is almost SPAM gaming. But the fact that she is constantly contacting me, must say something about "the bond" I've created with her. I really think I should read more into Ross, because the things I've read are awesome and deserve some credit. Thx man

Couple things I'd like to point out:

1. She said she needed a hug and you came running to her club ? Now you're just another one among the AFCs that she can wrap around her finger.

2. You said "fine" then left like a kid throwing tantrum for not getting what he wants. At this point, you showed her that she has a huge effect on you.

3. She asked you to come back and AGAIN you came running back to her side.

4. You SLEPT on the same bed with her THREE times, and yet you HAVEN'T FUCKED her? This is only allowed in 3 cases: she's your BEST FRIEND, FAMILY or she's TOO UGLY to your standard.

5. IMO, she's just keeping you on the hook for attentions, that's what HBs usually do.

6. Most of the time girls throw the "I want a massage" loop to see if you jump. Personally, I think it's best to decline the offer in a cocky & funny way.

7. You don't need to crack this girl, you need to crack yourself and improve your frame. It's quite obvious that she keeps contacting you for validation then ditches you when she has it. So stop feeding her attention ! Freeze her out or reply with bold, uninterested responses.

i disagree with everyone in the thread.

find a girl who will stop playing games with your mind.

she is clearly stringing you along because she knows you are interested.

i mean...

really?

sleeping together? massages? no sex? come see me? other dudes there? ignoring you? then calling you back? then ignoring you again?

jesus h. christ, man, lose this bitch...

HB9 or not...it doesn't matter...she sounded mentally challenged.

in what world would you invite a girl to come spend time with you, and then be all over some other girl and completely ignore her?

that's just ... retarded.

find someone who appreciates your time.

fuckin' NEXT

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Thanks for the heads up, this is also why I had to post this thing. I think I need a wake up call... What the hell have I been doing, I am making the same mistakes I did with this other HB9. This is a thing I have to decline ASAP. And it's true I need to rearrange my Frame, because this is getting me nowhere.