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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:26 pm 
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After painstaking years of dating entitled little princesses and serial-first-daters, I saw it necessary to put up site dealing with all the bullshit guys have to go through when dating today. I've finally got my guide up!

http://Dating-Musings.com/new-dating-rules-for-guys/

Don't worry, this isn't advertising because I'm not selling anything.

Feel free to check it out and let me know if you agree/disagree/too harsh, anything!

This site is pretty new and I'm just frying it going. I plan to add more to it over the coming weeks.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:26 pm 
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I'm a guy and don't agree with anything in that guide. Here's one thing:

If a girl texts you, “I don’t think we’re a good match.” DO NOT TEXT BACK.

This is what I would do. I would completely ignore her logic on that and not put up with any of it. Meaning I'm not going to react to the whole "not a good match" thing. Instead, I'd keep focusing on seducing and being cute/fun. For example, if I was with a girl up close in a more isolated place and she said to me, "I don't think we're a good match." I would give a sly smile and calmly say something like "If I can't kiss you my face is gonna fall off."

From experience I learned that a girl's logic is not realistic most of the time. I only take a girl's logic into account as long as it's on middle grounds. If it's a logical aberration that even I haven't come up with, then I just ignore it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:34 pm 
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The context is obvious: the "I don't think we're a good
Match" comes AFTER at least a first date. You won't be seeing her again. She will not be meeting up with you again.

Sure, go ahead and plead your case to her, try out an off-colored joke or witty comeback to "win her back"

Let me know how that works out for ya.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:38 pm 
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Yea, I don't agree with anything from the guide either, the author seems to take thing from a novice point of view. He's leaning toward avoid confronting his problems rather than tackle it.

1. "I don't think we're a good match" - completely shit test, and you run away doing NOTHING? I'd ignore that response and game her like usual.
It will only be a problem if you make it so.

2. " If there’s a sign that she’s a serial first-dater, refuse even the possibility of meeting her." - Personally I don't see anything wrong with serial first-daters, this means it will be easier to set a date with them, and what do you got to lose? I can practice your game with them, unless you're one of those emotional needy guys who can't take her saying "see ya" after the first date.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:53 pm 
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Thanks for feedback either way. Not everyone is going to agree with everything I have to say, but I'm definitely NOT coming from the position of a novice, after hundreds of dates, enough one-night and one-week lays, and a few longterm relationships.

You have limited time and energy, whether you're emotionally distraught or not when a girl says "seeya" after the 1st date (wasn't the message) wouldn't you want to cut the dead-weight out of your dating life?

I do mention in the guide that some needy guys will see some of these points differently, because, "Hey! It's still a shot with a girl, right?"

You guys didn't agree with ANYTHING in the guide? Did you read it?

What about:

"Don’t buy dinner if you don’t normally, just because she’s hotter and seems to have her act together more.  That’s only putting her on a pedestal like every other guy is doing."?

Who would rather do this?! Go ahead and supplicate if you want.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:47 pm 
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i liked some of your walk out saying nothing more moves.

how would u handle say this--u invite girl that u get on with as an acquaintance-pre friendzone for a simple coffee date in a public place where nothing could possibly happen to her--but yet she still has to take along this female friend for support without having first said friend would be there

--i find this very annoying/immature and don,t particularly like being interviewed---this kinda crap happens a lot in ireland.

At first i used to not bother going over if i seen them waiting at the place---now ive developed a tecknique where i do go over sit down---then be all over the friend, i talk to her, i show lots of interest in her,i laugh at her jokes--[not to win her over to my corner, because when girl(THE ORIGINAL DATE) does this i write her off on the spot as a social retard--so i basically hit on the new friend while barely acknowleging the original if she speaks i say a quick''oh right or yeah'' then straight back to my new ''friend'' --i have no interest in either of them at this stage unless number 2 is super hot--so i sorta leave the original better than i found her--if she wants to behave like a boring 12 year old dats how she'll be treated

What u think


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:00 pm 
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Show up too. Mention cool-like and offhand, "Oh, someone else is coming along."

This has got to be so cool where you are NOT bothered by it.

Absolutely show more interest in the friend. Well played. Act a little coldish to the original girl. Give one-word answers, etc. Don't ask her anything or initiate anything.

Then excuse yourself only after you've been chatting 20-mins tops. (I don't know how much time you set aside for a coffee date....I don't do them.)

Get the friend's number on your way.

When you leave, you've got to be so easygoing and cool about it. You CAN'T appear bothered. Have another engagement to go to.

The original girl will be calling you by the evening. No question.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:10 pm 
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Make it “Meeting up for drinks.” Keep it early, EARLY in the evening, far away from the dinner hour, so that there can be no mistake that you are not buying dinner.

Get to the place a little early. Order one drink for yourself, and ask for the check. When she arrives, her drink is on her. I have actually had girls still arrive at the place, ask for a drink when the bartender offered, then say nothing about starting a tab or putting it on a card.
If you invite a girl out for drinks it's in your best interest to buy her a few drinks.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:05 am 
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I think I disagree with like 90% of this guide. Some things to uh point out:
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Trust me, date a lot, and this’ll save your bank account! – not to mention the disappointment when she texts you, “Sorry, didn’t feel the click.”
How does dating a lot saves your bank account?
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New Rule: No more girls who give you a build-up before meeting. As described in the Dr. Date if a girl texts you a bunch before the meet, that’s a big concern.
It can be but that is more due to what she says in her text messages than anything else. A girl saying "I can't wait to see you I told all my friends" a lot is more than likely to be needy/clingy. But a girl texting you a lot about a topic/subject that you brought up or something is something else. Its the context of the message that is the important part, not how many times she texts you.
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New Rule: Be more unresponsive. Do not plead your case to a girl, if she tells you she “doesn’t think we’re a good match” or “didn’t feel the click.” You don’t want a girl who needs an instant click anyway. That’s unrealistic.
I think you need to be able to tell the difference between a girl that is all into love at first sight and not feeling any chemistry. I think people can tell when its obvious when dating someone isn't going to work out or when it will. I mean why date someone if there is no connection on both sides?


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Your reasoning makes sense and it could be good for you, but a lot of what you said were qualifiers of when the guidelines might/might not be right, rather than dismissing them wholly. This makes me wonder how the "90% disagree" you claim stands up. There are tons of points I mention, that no guys dare object to, because I'm right and have the balls to finally come out and say it.

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LOL YOU GUYS GO ON DATES.... LOL, JUST PULL


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:48 am 
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Your reasoning makes sense and it could be good for you, but a lot of what you said were qualifiers of when the guidelines might/might not be right, rather than dismissing them wholly.
So don't call them rules then, but guidelines. Because its quite clear they won't always be right. Nor will it apply to everyone like your "rules" suppose to be from reading your article.
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because I'm right and have the balls to finally come out and say it.
If your right then you could prove me wrong then. I think I will point out that your "rules" are based upon your dating experience, so ya your going to be right when it comes to your dating experience when it comes to these so called rules. But they don't apply to other guys as not everyone has the same dating experience.


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It's cool man. I only said "rules" because everybody seems to call their lists "rules" these days, like a magazine. Definitely not all-encompassing.

I think the lesson here, though, is to not be needy and generally not keep hounding a girl if there's no future with her. This is *not* the standard that's currently taught in pick-up.

They say: "If a girl says, 'I decided I only really see you as a friend now, I'm sorry.' it's:

"Naw man, don't take that shit, you gotta keep gamin' her, keep throwin' out the treads and DHV's, you gotta up your game man."

If a girl says in a club, "I'm not interested, please go away" you're supposed to be like "naaaw man, I've gotta win her friends over with DHV stories, palm readings, and jokes, then I win her over!"

In fact, do that with all girls who want nothing to do with you.

I can tell you from years of experience that I took all of that advice for too long and it only got me either in trouble, or looking like a real dumbass.

Know when to walk away from a girl and cut her loose for fuck's sake.

Don't let some bullshit girl waste your time when she just wants to enjoy the free dinners and drinks, and is dating another dozen guys, even if all you really want is a girlfriend (most guys), not a quick fuck. Give yourself a break!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:20 pm 
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If a girl texts you, “I don’t think we’re a good match.” DO NOT TEXT BACK.

If she tells you something like this verbally. Hang up without saying a word.

If she tells you something like this in-person. Get up and leave without saying a word.
Neither I can't agree here. If a girl texts you that, she probably think she's got more value than you do. What I'd do is just reply: "Indeed"

Though there are great chances you won't see her again, she'll still think about you, and wonder why the fuck SHE wasn't a good match for YOU. Chances are, she'll get caught in your game and reply "why ?". From this on, got with the usual DHV stuff.

If it happens on voice, same routine. Just say "indeed", and go with DHV, and just see how it goes. Hanging up just shows your lower value, meaning she was right.

If it happens in-person, same stuff again. Just say "indeed" and for DHV and lower her value. So that she'll feel affected and will feel the need to DHV too. If you have a good game, you can even get laid from this point on. Happened te me last summer with a Swedish girl.

Cheers,
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They say: "If a girl says, 'I decided I only really see you as a friend now, I'm sorry.' it's:

"Naw man, don't take that shit, you gotta keep gamin' her, keep throwin' out the treads and DHV's, you gotta up your game man."

If a girl says in a club, "I'm not interested, please go away" you're supposed to be like "naaaw man, I've gotta win her friends over with DHV stories, palm readings, and jokes, then I win her over!"

In fact, do that with all girls who want nothing to do with you.
I agree with you, but disagree with you. There are times when a girl will say this to test you, not all the time but it does happen. The key is knowing when she is testing you and when she is not. You can usually tell from her body language and how she delivers her rejection to you. Its not an exact science, but if you know how to read body language and with a bit of luck you know when she is testing you.
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I can tell you from years of experience that I took all of that advice for too long and it only got me either in trouble, or looking like a real dumbass.
This is why I never take much of this PUA to heart. There are so many variables and what have you that it does count for the human factor.
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Know when to walk away from a girl and cut her loose for fuck's sake.
I think this pretty much sums up your whole dating guideline/point. ;)
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Don't let some bullshit girl waste your time when she just wants to enjoy the free dinners and drinks, and is dating another dozen guys, even if all you really want is a girlfriend (most guys), not a quick fuck. Give yourself a break!
Which is why I always make the first date cheap so I can see how she reacts. Its amazing what one can learn when one takes a girl on a cheap date.


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