and guess what it all happened after I acted in my persona. Which is calm, cool, confident and good body language. Not once did I dhv, neg, get them to qualify. ALL I did was show confidence with good body language and take an interest in them as a person. That's It!

Seriously nearly every girl! However when I try and adopt a different approach such as the high energy guy or the pick up guy who gets girls to qualify to him it never works!

The fact is, pickup is so over complicated it's unreal. There are literally routines for every little situation that you can come across. I don't know how everyone else feels but I personally think that finding your own 'persona' and sticking to it while being confident is 90% of the battle.

Just think back to times when girls where attracted to you, laughing with you, touching you, having great conversations. How where you acting, what were you speaking like, how were you standing?

You will find out a hell of a lot more doing that than any line or 'dhv spike' you can think of!

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I don't even need directions from you, but I'm gonna get an erection from you.

BRO!!! CONGRATULATIONS, HATS OFF TO YOU! I've been there and thought, "Wowww, what IS all this shit?" Many people here don't understand because they haven't actually had enough experience trying out all that stuff. Pick up IS over complicated but there really is a proper way to pick-up. All the shit you tried is from David DeAngelo, Mystery, etc. Read 60 Years of Challenge, that's the correct material I've come across so far when it comes to PU.

It's all about being seductive; sexual & serious. No need to be social, no need to be a C&F fag, no need to be an alpha male shit, no need. Definitely read 60 years, you won't regret it. Like I said, 60 years comes off as very dumb/farfetched to many people on here because they haven't had your experience. But since you have come to realize, this is the next best step for you.