So I have this girl (Sarah) that I have been crushing on for about 3 years. I used to work with her at our firm but she quit about a year ago.

{Side note: I used to date a different girl in the office before I really got to know Sarah and it didn't go well. After that disaster I never dated inter-office ever again.}

Since she worked with me in the beginning, i couldn't date her (see side note above). Now, Since she has taken employement somewhere else, we have been hanging out more often. Carpooling to our volleyball games, going to movies, drinks, etc.

I don't know if I'm stuck in the "friend zone", but i would have to guess I am just simply because of how long we have known each other and the lack of moves I have made towards her. (some Kino, but but nothing great)

I have decided that I need to attempt something with her so I can either move on with my relationship with her or find something else (she knows that I go on dates with other girls, however).

Tonight we are driving together to the brewers/cubs game which is about an hour away for us. I invited her as I had a friend with some free tickets. We are going to seemingly be in each others presence for 6 hours or so.

Considering tonights circumstances, does anyone have any advice on how to go from "friends" to "K-close". I imagine this will somehow involve breaking down past notions of us being friends, somehow creating sexual tention and then probably some kino. If you need more details, please let me know.

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Well I'll start ya off and hopefully someone else finishes
your not in the friend zone until the LJBF speech, till then its free game
do the kino escalation, I did that with a sarah i know and though i wuz just friends with and it worked awesome. # closed with her later on. as for the game ur going to i dont have experience in doin that, if its loud its harder because you are straining to hear eachother, but its easy to get your face close to hers because you "cant hear"

Thanks for the feedback.

I should also note that i was out with her last night with a big group for a birthday. I should also point out we were a little tipsy and I'm not totally sure of the context of our conversation but she did say "Well, that's what my vibrator is for". I go on to ask how many she had. She lost count after 5 and said one hers doesn't "spin" anymore. I believe I spit out a part of my drink mid-sip after that comment. Hilarious

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Dude from what I'm reading, you'll certainly gonna get her, for sure.

Take a look at it this way, she hangs out with you, she likes your company, you're making her time fun... YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

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No one here is telling you the NUMBER ONE RULE. BE SEXUAL & SERIOUS. I can't stress it enough man. RISK being creepy, RISK being perverted, who the fuck gives. Try to really shoot that sexual tension up. The friend zone is really simple. Only asexual guys make it in.

CHRIS2K10 - Can you give me some examples? I hear that just coming out and saying "I like you" is fail. Should I just Kino the Sh*t out of her until i cross a boundry?

KUPID- I would tend to agree with you except that a different girl i currently work with (who i also wouldn't mind hooking up with) has stated "what great friends" we are even though she calls me to go out all the time and is in a state of non-stop laughter when we hang out or if she even comes into my office to chit chat. She has insinuated it would be a bad Idea to date and doesn't want to "ruin the friendship".

You can be in the "friend zone" and still have the girl call you alot, laugh with you all the time and even flirt to some degree. . . . . those are my thoughts

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"Walls aren't put in our life to stop us, they are there to test how much we really want somthing."
— Randy Pausch

See that's where you're going wrong. You never tell a girl you like her, you show it OR you quickly follow it up with something sexual. What you can say to a girl is, "I like you, you make me horny." That raises sexual tension, it's a yes. But if you're going towards the more asexual approach, then it's a fail.

Gaze at her, don't stare. Look at her lips and keep a poker face. Don't not your head, fiddle, or anything. Let her do all the talking. Keep a slight smirk. Talk slowly can calm, be the opposite of high energy. Let the awkward silences move in, you don't need to come up with something to fill the silence. Just approach closer and get sexual. A note on the touching: if you touch her too many times, it can decrease sexual tension because she already knows what you're doing. The objective is to make her horny as well. Grab her hands and hold on to them, see how long she keeps her hands in yours to create an "It's on moment". Meaning that from there you can take her home right away and get busy.

Don't try to DHV, don't throw jokes or act witty. The maximum that's allowed is being charming/cute. For example, you kiss her. She starts acting strange. You say, "If you don't like it, you can give it back" with a smile on your face. That's witty, but in a cute way. What I'm referring to is when she gives you shit and trying to fight it with wit is when you lose and break rapport.

If she starts resisting and stuff, keep going. Above all, be genuine about the whole thing no matter what she says you are. "You're turning me on, I'm just being honest." You have to be horny, give her pleasure with the mindset that you're trying to get sex from her, NOT approval/affection.

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