hey everyone,

i'd just like to gauge the progression of the PUAs in the community. i know everyone is suppose to go @ their own pace b/c there are so many variables to account for (ie time, money, other commitments, etc.), but i'd just like to see the average time it takes for a PUA to start seeing success (f-close) on a regular basis. i'm personally taking this poll to set a timeline for myself. i know i have plenty to learn & that becoming a successful PUA takes patience & effort, but i want to know approximately when i should start being good on a regular basis, so that i know i'm progressing in a timely manner.

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Mr. Jones

Different people percieve diferently on when they became 'mPUAs'. You gotta define on what you see as mPUA

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my definition would be the ability to f-close on a regular basis. i want to get to a level where i'm f-closing an hb every time i sarge, it might not be the same day/night, but w/in a matter of days/weeks.

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Mr. Jones

Still not there, just posted to see the results.

I'm going on 6+ years, and I'm comfortable with that. Making it my main focus at the moment, so I know I'll get there in time.

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Yeah I'm not the right address for that, I've been in the game for like a year and I still have a looooooooooooong way to go, I've a feeling I've barely scratched the surface, but one thing about me is that I'm persistant and if I started this I am going to finish it (with success of course, cause I never finish something longterm with failure)

Btw if your goal is to f-close everytime you go out to sarge, than imo, you won't be mPUA, even when you reach your pension.

No guy on the face of this Earth is able to seduce any girl

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I'm assuming that part of being an mPUA is being able to identify the women who you will most likely be able to succeed with based on body language, eye contact etc.

I think its not to do with time. It's to when you can get to an approach to close percentage of like 90%+ (so close 9 out of 10 women that you approach, or more)

that is a great goal to have but im pretty sure not a single man on earch could reach this goal, opening and closing 90/100 women is damn near impossible, even the best seducers probably at most would hit 60% and that would still be incredible, i have never met anyone who doesn't get blown out, don't care how indirect you go, everyone gets blow outs and girls that won't let you close,
go direct you will find this out right away, also you don't have to be an MPUA to be able to notice approach invites

I've met a few guys that could F-close around the 30% mark, one guy might've even been close to 50%.

I originally had a goal of F-closing 50%, but I've revised that to 30%, and I reckon to be a MPUA you'd have to be F-closing around the 30% mark.

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i totally agree; however, i want to be able to f-close almost every time i sarge, which most likely will involve more than 1 hb.

after reading the comments though, i suppose my expectations are lofty & i'll have to adjust them.

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Mr. Jones

If you guys want statistics...

I think Paul Janka said once, that he #-closes 8 out of 10 girls he approaches (on average, of course), and then he f-closes about 11% of the girls he #-closed.

So some of you should revise your goals a bit.

Around 10% F-close? I've met guys that do heaps better than that. The reason I have a goal of 30% is because I know guys who can do it.

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10+ years... but i have no idea this underground community, and the gurus existed, if you have all this material and info. it should take you couple of years tops..

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doens't matter on ur f-close rate, you can can 10 girls numbers and f-close all of them purely because they want sex so you've got lucky.
He might be sexually aggressive to them and only pays interest to the chicks that wants sex, who knows...

Also, some celebrities like david beckham or micheal jordan could probably f-close most women he tries to seduce, it doesn't really mean hes a MPUA

I wouldn't even say a MPUA exists, purely because theres not an exact definition of it.[/quote]

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I do know 1 thing though, bitches they come they go

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Adam Lyons say somewhere that at his peak he could pretty much F-close any girl he wanted?????

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