Feel so awkward touching girls...are girls ok with it??



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:28 pm 
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I dont know,
it just never seems really appropriate to touch a girl unless im really finding an excuse to

and even then, I feel as though "wait a second, im probably invading her space. Ive just met her, she probably doesnt feel completely comfortable with me doing this"

Am I wrong? are girls ok with being touched normally?
How much is too much?
When should you touch a girl?

Its as if im terrified of her knowing my intentions


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:16 pm 
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If you feel awkward about it, you will look awkward and will make them feel awkward about it.

If deep down you think you are doing something bad and sinfull and shamefull you will look creepy doing it and probably give them the creeps.

If you look like you are terrified of it and are holding yourself back and are hesitating, you will make them uncomfortable with it.

If you feel your "intentions" are bad, you will look suspicious and creepy.

Here is the real paradox to all of this - women LIKE to be touched affectionately but people that have affection for them. They LIKE to pleasured by someone they find attractive and have a connection with and they LIKE to be fucked by people they want to be sexual with.

The problem here is not that women don't like this kinda thing, it's that YOU have such a hang up about it and you are going to look and feel all awkward and incongruent.

You have a lot of work to do to get over this hangup.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:01 pm 
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Century, I think you need to build some confidence. When you do eventually kino, you don't want her to read that you are nervous do you?

Try working on opening, dhv-ing and when you see an IOI or 2, think about running some light kino on her.

Remember that if a girl doesn't like what you are doing, she will tell you with her body language and sometimes straight up tell you outright. Don't be afraid of this.

I have found that gaming strangers leaves me a lot more impartial towards personal decisions that might influence me, I used to and still sometimes let my personal friendship with certain girls get in the way of me taking a chance on her.

You gotta risk it to get the biscuit. What's the worst that's gonna happen, you never see this person again and you learn what not to do next time. Win win if you ask me.

EDIT: here2play made an excellent point also, that should help your confidence.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:40 am 
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girls wouldn't be so sensual and try to touch us so much if they hated being touched, if your nervous about it, just think of excuses like handshakes and thumb wars, and high fives, and spelling game (writeing on back with fingers) and the Xthing is over there (hand around shoulder pointing to location) and how tall are you? (pat head), and asking for hugs, and kisses on the cheek (french goodbye), once you get over this you will realise girls love being touched by someone they like, and love touching that person back, but they need to feel comfortable doing so, and they need to feel that you are also comfortable doing so,

in short, YOU NEED TO STOP CARING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK,
DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, NOT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE WANTS YOU TO


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:35 pm 
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Trust me when I say they love touching, but you have to do it right.
Kino is escalation, so obviously you have to start small and go big, also see how far she'll be fine with if you just met here so you can skip some stages. A girl I met last night is a good example, after 10 minutes we were holding hands around other people, how? I found a excuse to (one of her girlfriends was holding her hand, why couldnt i? lol), i was confident, and i let her take her hand out of mine, instead of me backing out (which relates to confidence). In the end you have to know these things
1. The different "steps" to go through
2. Women want to be touched, you like it dont you? they are humans too
3. NEVER ASK, she actually said "Id hold your hand but..yea" that means she wanted me to, so i did
4. Pumpington said it, find a excuse. a leader says "team up with someone!" so you find her and hold onto her hand, tell her "you look cold" and come in with a hug, drop something she has and "wrestle" her for it.

and this one is important, it goes with excuses
5.WOMEN WANT TO BE TOUCHED!!! do you know why we use excuses? its not so we can touch her, its not so she doesnt touch us, its because women are afraid others will see us touching them and label her. When you have a excuse what happens? that touching turns into a "explainable accident" where EVERYONE WINS
(little side note, also know when to stop touching her, if i kept holding her hand in my example when she wanted to let go it woulda turned awkward and the excuse wouldve gone away)


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alright this is excellent advice, thanks
1. So, start off with handshake
2. then maybe go to high five if she makes a good call/touch her shoulder "You had some fluff"/hold her wrist to check the time/compliment jewelry on her hand while holding it (one or two of these)
3. Pretend you cant hear her so move in close with hand around lower waist. Close distance
4. After a little while, if she was okay with 3, try the same hting "sorry, its hard to hear you with the music, what was that?" and hold the back of her neck, bring your faces close to each other as you listen to her repeat herself
5. Maintain this close distance if shes okay with it, and begin the seduction. Pausing when you talk, smiling, deep eye contact.

Is this correct? I know I shouldnt be a formula, but its going to help me to clarify some sort of structure...I think a lot of us are like that anyway :)


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alright this is excellent advice, thanks
1. So, start off with handshake
2. then maybe go to high five if she makes a good call/touch her shoulder "You had some fluff"/hold her wrist to check the time/compliment jewelry on her hand while holding it (one or two of these)
3. Pretend you cant hear her so move in close with hand around lower waist. Close distance
4. After a little while, if she was okay with 3, try the same hting "sorry, its hard to hear you with the music, what was that?" and hold the back of her neck, bring your faces close to each other as you listen to her repeat herself
5. Maintain this close distance if shes okay with it, and begin the seduction. Pausing when you talk, smiling, deep eye contact.

Is this correct? I know I shouldnt be a formula, but its going to help me to clarify some sort of structure...I think a lot of us are like that anyway :)
1. Start with a hug, handshakes are businessy and noones gunna go "ooh he just hugged her!" lol
2. Do the i cant hear you thing now if you are far away, if not no need to use it
3. Big jump with the waist, little unnecessary risk, if anyone else is within eyesight she will push you out and label you... badly. Start with arms
4. Reusing lines on 1 person is bad, instead of i cant hear you, try saying "you look cold" (or whatever, if its 90 degrees out obviously dont use that XD) and hug her to "check" if she is ok (even better yet maybe your cold and want to see if she thinks you are)
5. Going off the hug keep one arm on the hips and just turn parallel with her (id do a little more lower level kino, but to power level you can try this) and this is important MAKE SURE NOONE ELSE CAN KNOW YOUR ARMS THERE. like i said shes more concerned about her image than your touch, also make sure she knows noone else can see it too.
6. combo of (your numbers) 4 and 5
There should always be a formula, but the user should be able to make a new one every 10 seconds because thats how quickly the game changes (also know that applies for the one im telling you now)
Us guys are know for structure. 1.do this 2.then this 3.finish him-is what we like


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