My situation is that my best buddy and me always go out and find girls together, but he is a natural and I'm not. I've always been pretty decent with women and after reading the game and rules of the game i've gotten way better. The problem is is that he ALWAYS has to be the center of attention and he's damn good at it he's loud, funny, cocky, and posses all the traits of an alpha. I am do pretty well at keeping attention on myself as well, but he's just better at it. He amogs me by constantly keeping the attention on him self not by lowering my value, and it always comes down to him always getting the hotter girl or unintentionally stealing my girl. I've tried explaining the concept of winging to him, but he's selfish we live in a smaller area and girls 8 and up are hard to come by so if there is one in the room all he thinks is "mine". Is there anyway I can lower his value without coming off as a jerk?

Also, he has no knowledge of pick up artists or the society or anything of the sort cause like I said he's a natural he's never needed help. He is a great friend with the exception of when we are picking up women. Like I said I don't wanna amog him by cutting him down cause he never does to me. I don't wanna DLV on myself by picking on a loved one.

I know many good ways. But first, let me say "it's not good to lower your friend's value." Here are some alternative ways you could perhaps go about this:

- Bring a third wing into the group (that actually knows pickup, and will DHV you.) This will increase your chances, because the third wing won't allow your selfish friend to hog all the attention.

- Be the first to open the set, and insist to your friend that you don't want to open a set in tandem.

- Open a set with your selfish friend, leave the set, and open a new set without him in it.

- Get a new wing all together!

- Have a serious sit down conversation with your friend, and explain to him he's not being a very good friend (give specifics, I actually had to do this with one of my best buds before).

- Drop him as a friend all together. I don't like the whole "I'm the best, all eyes on me" ego that much anyway.

- Female wing?

why don't you try escalating faster on your target? or isolating her quickly? or just talking more then your friend? or being the person who is constantly setting the frame (passive frame control sinse your friend is obviously good at active frame control) just explain the process of social value to him and winging, when one person is getting attention from girls he has to the validate to his wing to dhv him, wings should not go in tandem it is more effective, for your wing to watch body language and show up when it looks like your social value is being lowered (inturupts/set ignoring you/low energy in set) wings job to fix these problems then exit, also you can work on accomplishment intros for each other (both split off to different sets to game solo then when you want to isolate you can start by saying let me introduce you to my friend he is a great guy he blah blah blah (DHV)) you both should come up with a game plan and pick targets before entering a set so no one gets shafted, if all this can't be done, just work on your active frame control and never seeking approval/attention from him and don't follow, cut his threads and establish new ones, good luck

Hey thanks!!! Great advice!