This HB8 and I, we used to be FWBs but then she LJBFed me after I got a little needy. So a week ago this HB8 was being a bitch to me, she became distant and cold so I froze her out after our weekend roadtrip together. 2 days later she then says sorry and I said she could make it up to me by going out for dinner on Wednesday evening.

Wednesday evening I played it cool, gradually escalated kino little by little. At some point she suddenly talked about us for a brief moment, and said, "I love you. Isn't that weird?" I didn't say it back because she was probably drunk and I didn't want to risk it. All I said was, "Oh you do?" and then smirked.

We ended up making out again as we used to do before, and she was kind of all over me, grabbing me through my pants and whatnot, biting me on my neck. We didn't f-close because it was really late and I was really tired.

What should I make of this? She's also still being a little distant but gradually warming up I think.

She was drunk. She might not even remember what she said.

DO NOT remind her what she said, though. That move has backfired so many times, it isn't even funny anymore.

Just continue your indifference and she'll be hooked right in.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Similar situation bro. Chick said I love you when she was really tired. She then LMR me by saying she's too tired to have sex. I then showed the indifference which lead her to start wanting me bad. Unfortunate for me i gave into her lovey dovey attempts to get me back under control. Learn from my mistake. She'll come beggin, just slowly let her work her way bak into your graces

her phone is supposedly dead so i was thinking of freezing her out again for the weekend since her friend is coming to visit for the weekend anyway. i asked her over on monday so i'm intending to ignore her till then, is that a good idea?

Seems about right.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

all right thanks a lot. it seems like most times i make the right decision, i jsut don't have the confidence that it's right :/

she also lives in hour away. since she doesn't own a car herself, would it be too AFC if i offer to pick her up?

Of course not. You're doing the gentlemanly thing.

More points in your favor. But, maintain a formal distance with her in the car. That's important.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

ok got it. i am curious as to what constitutes a flake. she said whether or not she can drive up depends on whether her sister is using the car. if she ends up saying her sister needs the car, would that be considered a flake?

A flake means an indirect 'No'.

If she doesn't show up at the last minute. That's a flake.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Ahh ok, so if she says her sister needs the car but I offer to pick her up, that's ok. But if she doesn't appear at the last minute, that's a flake? Thanks Don!

I am really nervous about this girl, she's amazing but been giving annoying mixed signals. Trying to act composed is such a challenge for an AFC like me.

no , that's not a flake... a flake is when she said "lets meet up here at (time) and she never shows up" that's a flake. She telling you that if she cant drive up because if her sisters needs the car. Valid reason, but if you offer her a ride and she still hesitant.. then that's considered an "excuse" for her not to come see you. Remember... You are not her B/F , Don't do shit for her that a B/F would. Its nice being a gentlemen and all but don't be her doormat.

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"Live life to the fullest, never look back, remember No regrets" J.f

sage advice, people. right now she's offering to drive up for "a couple of hours", and i'm afraid she'll back out at the last minute. was thinking of waiting till tomorrow to text her about the exact plans, then actually offering to pick her up in case it doesn't work out. and anyway if i pick her up there's a better excuse for her to stay overnight

i wish my inner game was much better. i don't know why i've had propositions from girls this past year when i've done nothing much at all. i prefer to be more active than passive.

Look.

You cannot question every step. Just go at her pick up point at the designated hour. If she's there fine. If not, give it 10 minutes. Then, drive away.

Then, at least you know the feeling of a flake and you can punish her for it.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

i understand, it's just that i almost blew it with this girl once and i don't want to do it again. so we have set a time for tomorrow, she's driving up here instead because she says "she doesn't trust me" to send her back on time if i drive her.

sorry if i'm still asking so many questions, how should i rebuild this trust?

hope someone can help me out soon, she's arriving tomorrow at my place. i know i should be a bit more blatant about my sexual desires and i am really hoping to f-close tomorrow. should i go for the aggressive path and start the night right off the bat with sexual bantering?