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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:55 pm 
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Hi.

I'm determined to be able to talk with women without being anxious, to become a natural alpha male and to become a happier person with a fulfilling, exciting life (is this what you call Inner game?). That is, I am not only looking to get laid.

I've looked through the different books avalible, and come to the conclusion that I first want to learn how to adopt the Alpha Male traits and how to get a sense of humor, and how to become comfortable with myself and around girls. For this purpose, I will read Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo.

Once I've read it and adopted it, and become secure within myself, I'll read Mysterys Venusian Arts (Revelation) for the more in detail breakdown of the whole Meet-Attract-Comfort-Seduce model. That is, I want to learn "natural game", but after that, I want to learn the Mystery Method.

I could just read the second book, but I want to become somewhat of a natural, and not ONLY resort to canned lines et cetera, but have something to fall back on besides the routines.


Does this sound like a good plan? Are there any other books you would recommend me reading for the same purposes (maybe "How to become an Alpha male" by David DeAngelo?), or will these books suit my needs and give me a solid foundation for success?

Thanks in advance! By the way, I can't afford buying too many books, so I'll limit myself to two books to begin with. Also, please do excuse my lacking English skills.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:00 pm 
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to learn the best natural game in the world, buy the book called "the natural art of seduction by richard la ruina". absolutely amazing stuff in there, and easy principles to learn. here are some notes based on richard la ruina and other puas. enjoy.

here are some notes on attraction, building rapport, and number closing which might be of interest to you. enjoy.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point.

and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want.

another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages.

after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:08 pm 
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here are some notes on attraction, building rapport, and number closing which might be of interest to you. enjoy.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above...
Thanks man!

What book would be the best for learning more about things such as attraction, rapport building, and number closing (the MM)? Is it Mystery - Revelations or is it Venusian Arts? Perhaps Magic Bullets is as good/better?

Ty in advance.


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If you're looking for book suggestions, start with "Double Your Dating" by David Deangelo and "The Attraction Code" by Vin DiCarlo. The reason being, you'll be able to get in-field without a 'study' mentality. Build some momentum off your successes, and maybe even associate pleasure to it.

Stay away from anything too structured, because you may get in over your head.

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I like this: "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc"


Thanks for sharing...ill be using it tonight.

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Hey is it possible to view any of those books mentioned above online?

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superunknown88 ,

Do a search. :wink:

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I read tons of books when I got started. - a whole stack actually, and it included every book mentioned in "The Game" (also a must for newbies)

While the whole stack of books definitely gave me some stuff to work with, I could see reading all of that stuff and reading the forums really confusing the he'll out of someone.

Less than a year in, I got the dvd product BluePrint Decoded by Tyler/RSD. This was a life-changer.

Some people call it an advanced program, but it's really designed for you to only get as much out of it for the level that you're at. I still go back every few months and I swear I'm hitting new epiphanies.

I'd say get that, hit the gym regularly, buy some new stylish clothes, a decent haircut and teeth bleaching, and go out ALL the time. The field is king.

Avoiding going out alone when you're new so if you have any friends to hit the bars/clubs with, preferably females, that's the way to go, but don't get trapped in having to use them as a crutch.

Watch the alcohol intake. A beer or two to loosen up is great, but we've all see the socially inexperienced people who try to make up for it by getting wasted. Pretty pathetic, no good.

Stay away from routines and lines: most of them have already been heard, or will be soon. Don't be that guy. Experience will teach you all the "lines" you'll ever need. It did for me!

Hope this helps!

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