So I think understand the idea behind "preselection." If a woman sees/hears that other women are interested in you (or at the least associate with you), then she too figures you may be a catch and becomes interested.

However, I have my doubts about some of the things I have read in terms of how to actually demonstrate preselection. For example, telling my target DHV stories that include other women I have dated seems counterintuitive to not only my gut, but also to what my own female friends have said about men who talk about other girls. Without my prompting about the subject women I know have complained to me about dates they've gone on where the guy talks about other dates he's been on or some girl who is chasing him. They say it makes them feel like "just another girl," or even worse, that the guy is trying to send her a message that he just wants to be friends.

With that said, I can however see how walking into a bar with 2-3 girls would help, assuming you subtly clear the air with your target and say they're just friends. Even better would be if other girls talk highly about you to your target. I'm sure that preselection at its best.

But again, saying things like, "So the craziest thing happened to me last week. I was on a date with this girl Rebecca and out of the blue a guy comes up to us..." to a girl you are gaming seems nuts to me.

Any thoughts?

Two quick things:

Your DHV stories always need to be worked in. The way you describe it, it sounds to me that you're doing whatever gaming you're doing, then SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH! You grab the conversation steering wheel, and yank it to the side so that you're heading in a whole new direction: DHV story time. Then you jar it back to gaming her. DHV needs to just be something that comes up. Don't be a robot that enters DHV mode. Then you seem like you're qualifying yourself to her, and that actually DLV...

Also, don't make the two mistakes you made when you talk about previous dates:

1. Don't label it a date. You're right about how women can be upset about you telling them you're dating other women. Your problem? You use the word "date", which today, sometimes communicates hoking up, or looking for sex. If you just tell her you were hanging out with your friend, much better, implies you've got women around you, aren't hounding them for sex, and are selective (you put her in "friend" terms).

2. You call her Rebecca. If you've worked up this other girl properly, then she's probably imagining herself with you to some degree. Not necessarily intimately yet, but thinking "Yeah, I like this guy, we should hang out, maybe date, etc."Her mind will wander down that path. Which means that when you talk about other women, she's already going to get a little bit jealous. Silly? A little. But that's female psychology, so you can't fault them. Learn to deal with it instead. Just mention a friend, but no names. Names put a face to this girl, and makes her more real. You want hr to be this faceless entity. A presence, but not a threat.

Oh, and Welcome to the Forum!

I always used preselection in a subtle way. I always keep girls around me. Girls notice that. I don't like to bring up stories involving other girks and when I do, I don't mention names. I've walked into a room full of hbs (all 8 to 10's) side by side with a girl and I can tell you I automatically had the attention of all the girls. Then the dudes came up, I shook a couple of hands and bam... I'm the amog.

--"Then the dudes came up."

Sorry, which dudes and came up to who? You mean friends of yours came up to you?

I think he means the other dudes that where in the room and saw he had hot girls and wanted in on the action.

As long as your doing it in portions you'll be fine. When you talk about another women this sends a mixed signal. And mixed signals are an important part of seduction. However its not always neccessary. Girls do it to us, so i pull the trigger back at the write times

haha yeah I meant other dudes came up to me, basically automatic amog.

There is this trick I do at clubs, I walk around and pretend I know everybody. I shake hands with strangers but act like they are personal friends.
There are 3 advantages to this.
1- it loosens me up socially
2- The social proof is ridiculous
3- You will meet alot of new people