Here is what I don't get.. the broke thug looking guys will get chicks and at the same time the rich successful rich guys get girls for being snoby rich dicks basically, now if we are between that what are we suppose to do? I mean of course we don't want to be conceaded but I am doing well off and just came out of a relationship, but what doesn't make sense to me is how some of my ex-girlfriend's friends would say "OMG that guy is so hot and is he single?" if those guys they are talking about are completely "fake" broke thugs? What happened to the good old wearing suits and getting girls days? I thought being broke and thuggish also demonstrated a low S & R value but yet it seems to work for them huh?

societies standards are declining.

young women (all women to an extent) are easily subject to social pressures of what is "cool" or "alpha" or whatever.

you ever feel peer pressure in your life?

then you can relate.

now take that peer pressure and multiply it by 10 or 20 and that is what and how women feel around their peers.

that is why "frenemies" can convince just about any woman to cheat on her man.

"girl he don't treat you right"
"girl you shouldn't have to listen to him"
"girl you are better than that"

next thing you know, another dick is in your woman.

my point is this: woman are easily moldable and controllable.

society (and her social circle) basically TELLS a woman what is a desirable man.

look at the trends. with women, it's always trends.

big, tall guys...

then, these little feminine model type guys...

then, the thugs and player types...

then, the lesbian trend...

and on and on it goes.

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I think it kind of also depends on the kind of women you're looking for. Some women get really turned off I've noticed to guys who dress nice, I've seen it a lot where I live, they're also not really good quality either though. Maybe consider stepping it up a notch and go to classier venues?

I kid you not I've gone some places where I dress like normal (polos and jeans, not really "peacocking"), nothing. Next weekend, come in wearing some throw-around crap I got from Hot Topic just to "experiment" on this same observation you have and I've had women approach me (still working on that whole AA thing). Crazy how this stuff can work. Women who want a classier guy might likely go to a classier place, can't say that 100%, just a running hypothesis, seems like common sense though.

Here's a good question, do you want some chick who gives it up to the local garbage man? Gotta make sure you're keeping yourself in check on the whole S&R value thing too! Don't sell yourself short. I know some people will say, "oh you gotta be open to all women" but you gotta look at quality over quantity too, you don't want to be labeled as the guy who screws anything that moves. Don't get you some super low-confident chick hanging on garbage men because she's a grab bag of needs right there (and if you do you'd better double bag it and not give up your digits, fair warning).

It's not about who has what. Yes, money is power and is attractive... but only to women who are looking for a long term partner or ones who are very shallow... and if money is the only thing you have going for you, typically you're gonna be seen as boring and predictable.

"Bad boy" types are confident, sexual, and they take the lead without putting up with any shit from the girl or paying attention to what they say cos deep down they know what girls want. It's dick. They have rules, they know what they want and they're persistent when they go after it. You can still be a nice guy and have those qualities, so it's not like you have to go around acting like a complete asshole... but you need to be willing to risk women thinking you're an asshole, cos that's the impression a lot of them are gonna get. That's why your money isn't getting you women. Cos you're worrying too much about their opinion of you and you're not going after what you really want, or you're being far too passive.

Try to impress a woman with your money and you're not gonna get anywhere, unless you're dealing with a woman with an agenda. You'll end up getting manipulated, and unless you give her a really good dicking she's probably gonna be looking for that side of the relationship elsewhere. Sad but true. I know girls who have guys that drive them around and take them out places, but they're not fucking those guys. Your success (or rather lack of) with women has nothing to do with money.

I was just reading this and thinking...god I totally agree with this guy! and then I noticed it was you dude lol too alike!

I dont think money makes or breaks the man. Its all about the attitude for me.

I agree with you bro cause I just came out of a relationship and I never spoiled my ex with anything she used to complain about how her other friends used to get this and that from their boyfriends and yet I used to laugh and brush it off and she would just keep coming back for more after complaining about it for 20 mins haha.. its just that i guess being in a long term relationship was not exactly what I was looking for, I want to just have fun but the role I guess i have been playing has just sent out the long-term boyfriend role and not just being financially decent (by the way I am not rich or anything like that lol just well off), but just the whole personality thing I guess i need to work on being more adventerous/dangerous too cause women melt for that as well huh?

Haha... we're gonna have a ball when you move here I reckon

She dates the rich successful guy because he's safe and can take care of her, but she'll get bored and cheat on him with the broke thug because he rocks her world in the sack and doesn't put up with her crap.

If you're a rich thug you've got the best of both worlds!

LOOL so true bro u snapped nastyy

50 cent

ftw

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