personally, i'm a real laid back guy and i don't look for any confrontation unless it finds me first....however, lately i've been acting like that alpha male around women...which, for the most part from what i've seen, is just bein foward about what you want, going for what you want, and not taking "no" for an answer. (no rapist, haaaha)

i've had several females tell me that i'm the alpha male and they love it. don't get me wrong i'm a nice guy too, but only when the female really deserves it, other than that, i show them that i'm the prize, and they might get to fuck me sometime soon....not the other way around.


my question is, where do you guys consider the line to be for acting alpha and acting like an asshole who just wants to get some? since i'm new to this stuff, i'm worried that i might exert being alpha too much, and the target will think i'm just there to fuck and bounce, which, from my experience, can turn a girl off instantly. (for the most part)

hopefully y'alls expertise can clear up this issue and provide some feedback. \

thanks guys.

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i consider alpha and being asshole as 2 artificial idenitities .... they are like being ''pua '' just an identity because you attach too many value to it.

many people are going to attack me for this but actually im insecure about most things in life.... im insecure about my career , about my looks and about what i don't do - i value my life so im very carefull. i don't think im good with woman but i don't think i suck with woman as well ..... still i do good with woman and people - i don't have female friends because when i make one the friendship is based on attraction and fucking on her behalf... last 6 months i got about 7 female friends but all only wanted to fuck me...

to my experience every identity creates more distance between you and other people including woman ... when you identify unconciously you are getting inside your head and out of the moment ... AKA not in state. you shouldn't be worried about being not alpha and you shouldn't be worried about being an asshole.

too many guys worry too much about being alpha .. they want be be alpha to the max but they don't think about being asshole ...

just drop the whole thing .. this way you don't have to think about it and this way you don't end up on some extreme end of the spectrum. most guys i know that call themselfs alpha are assholes ... 9 out of 10... i think if you call yourself alpha or superiour in comparison with other people you are more prone to insulting them conciously or uncociously...

maybe a extreme example but in WWII hitler and alot of germans thought they were alpha as well ( ubermensch) arian race is the strongest race etc and all that racial propaganda..... they turned out to be assholes and they also lost the war so.

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I don't think there's a need to be alpha or an asshole to get you laid, there's only confidence and congruity. If you're a laidback guy because that's what you are (and not because you started out picking that as an attitude) that's what you may want to display. That being said, my answer to your question.. the fine line between being an asshole and an alpha is that alphas should be upright guys and not backwards, like assholes. You don't play with womens feelings (emotional feelings, not sexual of course) to get sex, you don't AMOG friends to steal their girls, you don't make up stories to come across as interesting (and I know some of you guys won't agree on that last one, but come on.. get a life). I'm not saying I never cross this line though, but these are the things that I keep in the back of my mind to avoid.

Yea I struggle with this one because im a nice person, but I’ve realized that you have to develop a backbone if you want to get women. With people that I don’t know, Im an alpha with a touch of asshole, which works.

On the flip side, I have a pretty big social circle of friends. I show that I’m an alpha, but a nice one.. its hard to explain but I hold back on some asshole characteristics because word does get around. Its hard to balance it especially if there’s a girl in my social circle that I want and I know that I have to be super alpha to get her, but if i am my friends will know that im just trying to get some action from her. I’ve slipped up a couple of times and my friends let me know I was being an asshole.. especially if they have not seen my PUA side..

But I guess it comes with the Game..

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You guys are right. I'm naturally out going, and love the company of other ppl, its just alot easier to not care about what other ppl think when you try to be the asshole, since you were pretty much fucked from jump street anyway.....


what about if you have a nice personality like me and kastle? i can't imagine that changin your personality a small bit by not being as nice and forgiving can be harmful as long as you're doing it for you and nobody else....

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I agree, changing it a little bit won't hurt, you may adjust to that mindset pretty easily. I was/am a nice guy myself and it just doesn't feel right for me to pretend to be an asshole, even though results prove that it does work usually. But what I do works for me anyway. A friend of mine whom I consider a natural is like that too. He's a lot of fun to be around, never judges people or flames on people for no reason and gets lots of women with that, even though he's not handsome or anything. Of course a girl wants a guy who can look after her and himself, but there are lots of other ways to prove that you can without being a jerk.

I think people get into trouble by being "alpha" because they try to act what they think an alpha is. Alpha doesn't = asshole and shouldn't = asshole.

An asshole is someone who full of himself and pushes people around and doesn't care about the feelings of others or care about appropriate behaviour in a group or in a given setting. That is not alpha.

Intead of the word alpha, substitute the words initiative, competant, courageous, influencial and not a pushover.

If you try to act like someone you are not, you will always end up looking like a dick or a baffoon.

Not everyone can be a completely dominant dynamic leader without coming off as a dick.

But everyone can be true to themselves and true to their own personality and show initiative, show competance and confidence in the things they do as well as not making decisions or doing actions based on fear and not being a pushover that people push around and manipulate.

no your absolutely right, alpha doesn't equal being an asshole at all.

from what i've learned so far, alpha means doing what you feel like doing, when you feel like doing it, and not caring what other ppl think, fightin for things you like, overall just bein true to yourself.

this is good guys, i've actually had one of questions completely answered without the damn run around. you guys rock.

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