Seriously, fuck that whole natural game shit!

I mean, yes, having natural game is the most "natural" and is more legit than "stacked" game... but what if it's hard to have "natural" game? Your lifestyle right now just can't allow for the *hopefully* DHV funny stories that you are going to tell.

I'm just pissed because I'm so self-couscious about being SUCKY at socializing, even with guys, because I just have... NOTHING TO SAY!

I don't mind having "Stacked" routine if it might allow me along the way to get "natural" ones...

What's your think about that and what do you think someone like me should do?

How do you think you can pull off a "stacked routine" if your self cautious about yourself? Drop the games, stop learning about routines and what not and devote 110% of your time on inner game. If your not confident with your self (physically &emotionally) then you sure as hell can't pull off a routine. Natural game isn't about sounding like you have the best life ever at all. Natural game speaks for itself. Its natural. You adjust to every situation and sort of work on the spot, yes a great life style helps but at the end of the day confidence is key and if you don't have that you can't run a simple routine. Theres a forum dedicated to "inner game", theres fabulous stuff there you can look up. Good luck on your journey!

You're not in any place to play "stacked" game. You're playing "screwed" game.

Go do something interesting. When people ask me where I'm coming from, it's a book store or martial arts lesson. I can then go off on a tangent about an interesting book I've read lately or reference a broad martial arts concept and use it to touch on a seductive theme. This doesn't work if I lie about it.

No matter how you look at it, there is no substitute for doing something with your life. It might calm those unhelpful emotional patterns, as well.

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If your new and you suck with women. Stick to "stacked" game. I am gonna use Mystery Method is an example because most know what it is.

You can "small chunk" your game. Meaning First 10 set work on A1, next 10 set try to get to A2, etc...Is gonna save you a lot of hassle from trial and error. You can find your sticking points a lot easier. For example, before I started to small chunk my game, I would get number but a lot of them were flaky. Now, pretty much all my numbers are turning out to be real.

Cool thing is, your gonna learn how to interact with women and your confidence should be going up with women naturally. I would highly suggest still working on inner game, body language, and vocal tonality while learning this stuff.

Once you get these steps down and you can seduce women, go a head and start doing "natural game."

For guys that are horrible with women, doing natural game without learning step by step game is trying learn how to fly airplane without ever being trained.

BTW, now only the first 3 minutes of my game is stacked. Rest is just non scripted. This has taken me more then 2 years so is a long process. Is not a overnight fix.

Agreed. You can play stacked game if your life is boring and empty, but whatever kind of game you're playing, it never helps if you just make the whole thing up. Pherojack, if you have any other interests/talents in life beside picking up women, exploit those. Also takes your mind off pickup every now and then, which can't hurt either.