I have never had a girlfriend, I've never held a girls hand, and I’ve never kissed a girl. I'm a virgin. I have read, watched videos, and asked for help from other PUA's for over a year now and nothing. My whole situation is making me so lonely and depressed I have a hard time coming up with reasons to go on. Even after all of the PUA tactics the furthest I've gotten is an open, not even a good open either, the girls runs away as fast as they can. I'm at the end of my ropes I try and try reading watching videos on how to be a PUA and I’m not getting anywhere I can’t figure it out and its driving me nuts. Please help me. I will answer any question you may have. Do anything you ask me to do. I will be your project. Please model me. I am at the mercy of the PUA community. I know that most if not all of you have been in my shoes and have felt me pain. Please any help would be appreciated.

I'm no PUA and I don't know if I ever will be. I'm also a virgin who has never done anything with a girl as well. Up until a few weeks ago I felt the same way. I was obsessed with finding a girl while quietly contemplating suicide because my life sucks. I only have one real life friend and I begged him to help me and he didn't. So I know it's not much consolation, but really you have to 1) Stop obsessing about girls so much and 2) Just go out and do it. I have started to do 1. Still working on 2 though. Anyways the post below really helped me out. Maybe it will do the same for you. Good luck.

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The absurdity in your words is the reason you cannot succeed. Here's a fundamental thing you must always know and consider: none of this REALLY matters. Sure, I know you want to be in a relationship, have sex, have intimacy, romane, etc... But it's not worth the way you feel about yourself. You're a man, and always will be a man - no matter how much you get laid, if at all. And no matter how lonely you think you are.

If you treat the whole thing as important, even crucial. You're basically tainting the way you project yourself to the world. Girls catch that and are immediately unattracted.

I suggest you start focusing on other aspects of life; like hobbies, studies, work, career, etc... Then come back with an attitude that you're enjoying life and enjoying the process of learning rather than gripe and whine about the fact you're lonely. I know it's easier said than done - but you're going to have to do it.

Also, you have to understand that no matter how many times women reject you, there's always going to be another chance for you to hook up. But you're going to have to be willing to take the shots and MISS. That's the only way you learn how to score. True failure is not failing at all. True success is failing a dozen times and then learning from mistakes - getting closer to the goal every time. This is true not only in meeting women, but everything in life.

To summarize, you're going to have to take the blows life is throwing at you and keep going. You're going to have to swallow the spit and move on, always, and not quit at half time - that's how losers behave.

Good luck.

First of all dude, don't get so stressed out about it...I know it hurts...A lot of us have been there...a lot of us are still there....Your 26, if you've been reading on here long, you know its fairly common. Your putting pressure on yourself, STOP IT, NOW, its actually hurting your game. Let go of the stress, it only shows your needy. Look: Extramask was 26 when he started and got his first girl, Most of the top PUA's didnt do very well until their mid 20's either!

I'm know exactly how you feel, and its a SHITTY feeling. I was the same way, you can't get what your looking for out of reading, watching videos, or talking in chat rooms, you need to get out into the real world, no matter how painful it is...You need a wing. Do you have any friends that are just bad ass at picking up chicks? Swallow your pride and ask him to teach you! I found an awesome wingman group on meetup.com for my area...

Whats stopping you from getting good with women? Is it AA? I can tell your definitively low on confidence, as I was/am. Go out and get it!

Have you tried going to a workshop/bootcamp? It sounds to me like it would do you wonders, sometimes it just takes a hand to hold to get you started, no shame in it...Thats why I think you need a wing and a bootcamp.

You HAVE to get back to the field. Do the "Beginners challenge"... Go find a popular strip mall or something, stand out there, and approach and atleast say hello to every woman there...You might even want to go to a costume shop and wear a ridiculous outfit while doing it.

Abide by the 3 second rule (if you see her, are attracted to her, approach her within 3 seconds of seeing her), and spend a few nights at the bar/pub having 1 or 2 drinks and cleaning house...

If your looking for reading, check out Double your Dating by David DeAngelo, a bunch of stuff in there that really helped me with my inner game and realizing what women are after...I say its a required reading for you! Also check out the mensroom.tv! I Hope you get stuff sorted man!

Get help if your thinking about hurting yourself...

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Man up! Get yourself together!

If you don't like your life as it is now, you can do two things:
1. Take action, fall, rise, fall again, rise again, and you will win
2. Don't take action, accept, stay in your comfort zone, and life will continue.

I hope you will choose option 1. Before you start dreaming of sleeping with HB 9 & HB 10's, there are three phases you have to go to:

1. Feel comfortable about yourself: feel confident, think you as much worth as anybody else, that you are good enough for every girl, you are an interesting person.

2. Feel comfortable to connect: feel confident to approach anyone, men or women, make friends, small talks, talk to the bar-personnel, talk to people at the gym, make a joke with people in the bus.

3. Feel comfortable to game: you must love yourself, before someone else will love you. Don't act, but be confident! There is already attraction between men and women, you only have to make a preselection by opening them.

Of course this sounds easier than it is in practise. I am not a psychologist or a PUA. Not too long ago I was in the same situation like you.

Let me give you the following steps you do the coming days:
1. You wake up and stand before the mirror and you scream every morningten times: "I am the best', "I am goodlooking', 'I am interesting', "girls like to talk to me" [psychologic trick: the inner you will believe this after a while]

2. Set small goals everyday. Day 1: your goal is to talk with 3 strangers. Day 2: talk with 4 strangers. Day 3: talk with 2 female strangers. Day 4: talk with 3 female strangers. [after a while you will feel comfortable with this]

3. Read MM and 60 years. MM will give you tools/techniques that you can use in practise immediately. 60 years will help you over your AA.

4. Approaching your first set. Start modest: start with a HB6 or HB7. And the goal is NOT to get her number or sleep with her. Ask her what kind of club this is, music SPAM. When you have asked this, you thank her and you leave. You will already feel less pressure after the first set. Do this several time, until you feel comfortable having a conversation with women. This will lead to more self-confidence. If you see a girl, you IMMEDIATELY talk to her. If you hesitate or don't open, you will feel miserable about yourself that night [been there, done that].

5. the most important step of all: CHANGE YOUR MINDSET
- there is absolutely nothing special about girls. There are just human, like you and me. Nothing to be scared of.
- Rejection is what you will get, what every PUA will get. And it is NOT YOU! Some women are just not nice.
- Who is more cooler: guys that stand at the bar the whole night talking about girls, or guys talking to girls with success and failures?
- If you don't game, you will miss all the fun and luck in life. And time is ticking;
- It is ONLY YOU that think approaching a girl is awkward. No one, the girl, the crowd, will notice it. You are making yourself crazy.

Nothing is worse than promising yourself that you are going to talk to girls, and that night you don't. Or the girl you like, you don't dare to approach, will be approached by other men and kissed/fucked by them. You will hate yourself for this. Be a man! Take what is yours! [/u]

Don't feel bad. I was stuck in your situation for the first year of pick up. To really explain things and how to improves, it would take me couple of hours to write.

#1. Work on your inner game. A great product I can suggest is RSD - Blueprint.

#2. Work on your style of clothing.

#3. Keep a private or public journal where you write your field reports down. This should not be ego based. Write down all the positive and the constructive stuff. As you gather more knowledge about pick up from text book, you can go back and re read your field report and figure out where your messing up at and work on those sticking points. If your posting a public journal, it should be for yourself only just like is private.

#4. Be prepare for failure as you progress. Some are gonna be right in field like messing up in comfort, while others are gonna be major like messing up on day 2's. Trust me, I screwed up my first day 2 really bad. I know what not do know.

#5. Basic and everyone needs to work on this. But work on body language and vocal. A great product to improve the way you talk is Roger Love - Power of Voice. Body language is a easy fix but vocal is tough and it takes time.

#6. Don't drink when sarging. Remember, your learning.


Don't get down, it takes time. If you can, find wings that are already good to kind of find a "shortcut"



Start breaking your game down. Mystery Method is a easy example to use. Your first 20 set should be only A1, after you have that down, your next 20 sets should be A2, etc...Great way to to progress.

4 words for you: "You are over complicating." If you make yourself to go out, not to approach but just to go out, get farmiliar with environment than, you'll automaticly start to approach.

From my point of view this thread gaming-vt83634.html would be very useful to you, Ryan Oceros sais it good on direct game. I think that if you start off with that you can skyrocket

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