I will try to keep this post as detailed as possible so that any advice given to me will have a good idea of my position. I will however try to also get right to the point so it isnt a boring read.

Intro
MY name is Justin I'm 25 years old and I live in a normal city that surrounds other cities all within 20 min of each other. I consider myself a 7/10 slightly above average looking guy. I believe I have a phenomenal personality when it comes to integrity and being a good friend. I'm fun and outgoing ( in club settings ) I love to live life, I try to help my friends and people as much as possible, I also try not to be to nice and be a alpha male, I never lie or backstab my friends, I do whatever it takes to wingman people even let them have my apartment/bed and pretend I need to go somewhere just so they can score, Ill wake up at 3 am and pick my friends up if they are drunk no matter if I have work in the morning... basically I feel im a really nice, fun, guy and people should be lucky to be friends with me.

Problems/Concerns
I'm 25 years old and from 18-24 I did not go to college or do anything. I went through a rough time in my life and now pretty much only have 1 year worth of college. I feel this holds my confidence back a little bit for two reason
1. I go to 18 and up clubs rather then 21 and up places. My reason is that I look like im 21, act like im 21, and I'm in a position of a 21 year old in school and in my job ( 8 dollars an hour at meijer ).
2. I just feel more comfortable there
So my problem is when I meet some girls who are 18/19/20 and I tell them I'm 25 I feel that they might be slightly like oh really? and might be surprised to know I dont have a career or anything like that.


My next problem is my friends. The reason I feel this is a problem is because how can I impress girls and more so invite girls to come out with me with a weak social circle?
I have 3 main friends/people who I hang out with and I will bash them a little bit but its all true and not exaggerated.
1. A really fun, outgoing guy, who loves to party and go out and just go crazy! Problem is he has absolutely no game and creeps girls out way to hard. He also only goes out once a week and we only hang out to go to the club.
2. My other friend is really good looking but has a boring bland personality and jsut stands there. He is also super shady and lies to me and has stolen from me. He also lives far away and only hangs out with me once a while when he doesn't have anything else to do.
3. My other friend is all into the pau and picking up girls. However he is very selfish, doesn't honor the brocode, and has no respect for me or anybody else. But he goes out a lot and tries to meet girls.

How can I meet a girl and tell her hey! bring some friend or come out with me my buddies and I are gonna go bowling or do this or do that. When we dont do anything like that and if I convince and beg them to actually come out they are super awkward and its just weird.


my approach/mygame
I usually go the club and this is where I meet most of the girls. Usually 7/8 that are 18-21 years old. I see a girl I think is cute and I go up to her and ask her to dance. Then I leave and try to talk to another girl and just have a really good time. Then I will go back to the girl I was dancing with later in the night and say " I totally liked dancing with you until you stepped on my foot. which is not a big deal but I already stubbed my toe today like a clumsy goof! " " whats your name? " then I introduce myself and say something like " oh i was totally off beat Im a little drunk. " you know I wish they would play this song blah blah its my fav song right now whats your fav song? Oh and if she is with friends ill say is this your best friend and introduce myself and maybe throw a neg or two in there. Ill ask her where she is from and make up a story about that city as a neg. And then Ill say well come on we are dancing again and take her to the dance floor. Then I ask for the numer towards the end of the night, give her a hug and kiss on the cheek, and leave. During the talking I touch a little bit, tell her she is sexy, tell her she turned me on a little bit stuff like that.
After I have her number I text her a day or two and say "Seriously my toe still hurts urkel. Its ok though once im finished cooking this amazing meal ill feel better" ( If she tells me her fav song i say i jsut heard it and it reminded me of you )
Then I talk about what I'm cooking and go into that a little bit and just bullshit. Then Ill say I gtg sleep or gtg w/e I got work early whats your facebook? ill hit you up later.

Next day ill bullshit a little bit about work try to make some jokes and blah blah.

and this is where it ends... with every girl.

your inner game is not good, you believe because you are 25 you can not get 18, that is false, that is in your head...Actually girls preferred guys 5 to 10 year older. Second, trying hang out alone, or we guys that are natural successful with women. Third, base on what you wrote you game is really weak, learn text game, and me personally i do not get phone numbers unless i at least make out, or the girl is really into me, you got improve your game, and if you are 25 go to older clubs, again your inner game is messed up, you do not need money to get girls, as long as they see you have ambition, drive etc... And not just an excuse maker... Your communication is weak, and your text horrible, again check the text threats we hundreds of text to use, i think is under mid game...In my opinion the line about stumping in your food afc, and your text afc, weak, change all that....You need to escalate more learn club game you do not need to talk at a club is more body language and escalation...

my text:


pua:This is Brad Pit(or your cool nickname) had a great time at xyc club, but do me a fovor and stop


hb: stop thinking about me and smiling, i bet you are doing it right now...


Learn text game and phone game..

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From what you say, your friends are bellends. If someone steals from me I couldn't class him as my friend. I also hate selfish people.. so same applies there too.

I admire a lot of your post and what you stand for, I wish more people were so level-headed, if you're genuine of course

Personally if you get their number (and remember what they look like vaguely), i reaaaaally don't see the need to add them on facebook. I despise facebook and think it's full of sleasy guys trying to hit on girls with their AFC ways. All it does is makes me see things that frustrate me and puts me off the whole aim of what i'm doing.

I get the expression that you're struggling with the whole text game and obviously you're struggling to get day 2's. I'd just keep it short and sweet, a few jokey texts referring to the night, and if all is going well, i'd just drop in a "I thought we had a good laugh on x-night, we should meet up for a drink. I've possibly got a bit of spare time next week - Tuesday or Wednesday?" or something like that. Get the timewasters out of the way my friend!

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1. why do you need to invite girl to hang out with your social circle? You need to push your comfort zone and hang out with these girls one on one.

2. for guys, age don't matter. Attraction works based on womens emotion. This cancels out what ever age you are.

3. Really drop the dance floor game. This is weak. You may get lucky and have a girl call hit you back up. If you like the dance floor, go out and do it all you want but don't except solid numbers.

4. Looks don't really matter unless your butt ugly. There are tons of good looking guy at clubs. Have a cool style and stand out. Don't blend in.

5. With the girls at club, your not going past attraction. You still have tons of work that need to be done. You need to build comfort, qualify, kino towards sex. Is freaking amazing how nuts some these girls will go over you if you find commonalities. Connect with these girls so they wanna hang out with you. If you keep constantly keep trying to make these girls laugh, you will become a dancing monkey. After attraction drop it. However, if something funny just comes out, don't hold back.

Your "friends" sound shit. Get some new ones. Join some clubs / do some activities and meet new people and have other shit going on in your life.

Women don't give a FUCK if you don't have a career, or how much older you are than them. They just care that you're a cool, attractive guy who has at least some motivation to do something, ANYTHING.

I would go out and sarge ALONE. Focus on the intent - you want to find a girl and take her home that night.

Forget the dancefloor. Approach any girl you think is hot, whether she's by herself or with friends. Get her attention by walking directly to her and maintaining good eye contact whilst smiling or smirking initially.

"Hi. Don't take this the wrong way, but you look fucking sexy and I want to get to know you. What's your name?"

That's your opener. Start touching her arm and lower back immediately, and continue escalating as quickly as you can whilst having a bit of light conversation. If you enjoy dancing and know how to dance with a girl properly (i.e. as sexual foreplay with lots of touching, not trying to impress her with your "moves") then now is the time to do so. Isolate her from her friends as quickly as possible.

After that opener, if she stays there, says her name, or ANYTHING (apart from running away) it means SHE WANTS TO FUCK YOU.

Don't be a pussy
TRY IT

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Ryan, your posts make me want to fuck you

Regarding this direct approach, I was in a pub down south a few weeks back, and there was a really drunk man, i'd say he was 35-40, on his own. I was talking to him, and he told me he was approaching every single girl he could get away with (without bf's there), and using the line "excuse me love, i'm fucking busting for the ride." - now I know that may seem a little too direct, but some of the girls loved his honesty, it amazed me.

I guess with this sort of approach Ryan, you aren't looking to n-close.. it's more a case of kino escalate, isolate and try to get them back to yours, or vise-versa?

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Thats's right. A number is a last resort if your logistics don't work out. If your intent is to take her home, then everything from extended comfort building to befriending the obstacles to waiting 7 hours to getting a number are all completely pointless and a waste of time.

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In addition to what Ryan said, which is spot on, I noticed something else.

A couple times in your post your mentioned "impressing" girls. No. Forget trying to impress anyone. Not your friends, and most certainly not the women.

Expression not impression. Remember that. Express yourself and who you are. This allows you to be 100% real and genuine, something most guys never do when talking to hotties, and believe me.... the women know it.

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1. But isnt hanging out in a group going to build a lot of comfort for a 1 on 1 date in the future? " Hey me and my friends are going bowling thursday at 7 why dont you come up and lose to me in a few games? "
she comes with friends and you dont run out of things to say and its comforting and fun and so on? what would I ask her to do in a 1 on 1 date?

3. whats wrong with the dance floor game? explain more please


and ty all for the responses

Ryan guy is legit.. I agree 1000% ouch dance floor game is solid, what are you talking about, it is the best way to go from meeting to bed, without saying o barely saying a word...

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1. FUCK comfort. You're already being way too much of a "nice guy," you need to focus on being more SEXUAL - on being the guy the girl wants to FUCK, before you care about displaying the qualities she might be interested in for a guy to date. Again, stop being so goddam indirect with your approaches. You like a girl and think she's hot? TELL HER. There's nothing wrong with it.

3. There's nothing wrong with going on the dance floor. It's the WAY you're doing it. Again, really indirect. Don't ask a girl to dance, and if you are dancing with her and she likes you, don't just fuck off and talk to some other girl. Focus on the intent, be direct, and get what you want. Simple.

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