I kind of have a really bad crush on my personal trainer she's so far out of my league she might as well be on another planet (shes in training for the 2012 Olympic games) to say she is fit is probly the biggest understatement of your life.

I just know deep down she likes me we have things in common like been a twin.
I dont under stand her tough she asked who i live with and i said my twin. She said she lives with 6 other people one being her boyfriend. When she said that she didn't look me in the face i think she is lying.

Maybe she is just being nice as she is being paid to me a personal trainer but is it worth me trying a few nags on her?

Maybe i should test how serious her realathionship is with this boyfriend. I mean she is only 22!

I know she is a personal trainer and has over a 1000 people on her facebook.

ts an oportunity of a life time ive even get her mobile in case i cant make it too a Persoanl Training session i dont dare sms her anything like asking for a date.

How on earth do I even start with this one? I

Before negging, I suggest you find the whole purpose of negging. Personally, I would not neg.

Maybe DHV stories? I am not sure if there is any specific technique here that can help you.

BTW, no women ever is out of your league.

I'm with ouch on this one, DHV over neg for this.
She's a personal trainer and an athlete... most people probably only talk to her about these things.
Try to elicit values and DHV to make connections outside of her job and gym time.

If your both twins use that to get talking about topics outside the gym, im sure there is a DHV story some where from your childhood.

Ok yeah I re-read about a neg as I had got confused it would not be needed in this situation as I already know the girl a little.

I will also try to demonstrate high value I am also going to make an effort to try to smile and talk to all the staff there.

on another note what is the best place to find a wingman for sarging? im from south east uk could do with some practice ( i might also take some modern jive dance ).

I was going to use 'puaforum dot co do uk' but my twin brother uses it and doesnt want me going on it meeting up with the same people he knows (thats family for you).

I think I need to re-ask her about her b/f but in a non direct manner. I might say...

AFC: your hair looks amazing today
her: ohh thanks (hopefuly)
AFC: you know if you hadn't already told me you had a b/f I would have asked you out by now but lucky for you I live with my gay twin brother. Then change the subject.

or (something ive heard from another pickup artist)

AFC: ..I have a rule that I don't date friends ...even if they have amazing hair as you.. then change the subject.


I seriously going to say something to her on Friday as i maybe starting a new job next week and i won't see her as much.

(only way ill see her is by paying for more Personal Training ) lessons i just hope what ever happens she has a sense of humour.