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There were two sticking points in this set, one was her friend was bored and showing my target a picture on her phone while I was talking to her. Jed, tried to step in and distract the friend, but she wasn't having any of it.
she was indirectly trying to cockblock you ... probably because she thinks you are using a lame opener
mysteries jealous GF opener could come off like you are seeking for approval , i never talk about GF or GF friends, most people find it lame subjects anyway you must ASAP follow up with something else. but at least you had the balls to open so thumbs up for that ! next time try to challenge a girl ..... open up with something like : ''hey did you know when you are sleeping your heart stops for 45 minutes ''
challenge them .. make them feel a foolish in a funny way.
what all woman seek is challenge .. you opener should contain challenge.
regarding the follow up ... you can comment something .. something abouth their clothes.... you could ask them if they are gay ( i mean gay woman ) .. follow up with a story about a gay dude .... just be creative.
if you don't know what to talk about talk about your passions .. if i don't know what to talk about i honestly say it to the girl '' you are leaving me speechless .. i don't know what to say help me here''
sometimes i even talk about woman psychology and pickup... it's my passion.
don't talk about logical subject like politics unless you are dating a politician.
subject : culture , movies , music , food , female psychology, how chodes behave ( immitate for fun ) , gardening , vacation. talk about cool moments you had in your life....
don't talk about money , status, looks , social status , boring subjects like economics unless you are about to make a funny comment.
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set 2) Was a mixed large group of guys and girls. I did what I was supposed to do and opened the guys first while completely ignoring and lightly neging the girls. jed stepped in behind me and joined the conversation with the guys, continuing to distract them. At first, this was working perfectly, the girls kept tapping me on the shoulder asking for attention, and we kept brushing them off, till finally we gave them some attention I then tried to isolate my target to do the NLP routine, but she wouldn't come with me. After that the set kind of died.
Sticking points, one, I think I tried to isolate my target before she was comfortable with me. Should I wait for 3 IOI's before I try to isolate?
you have rejected her...at the first ioi tell her to wait a minute ... second ioi you strike up convo with her. me personally .. i would respond at the first IOI , however i don't neglect the other people i was talking to - it's ok to give her some attention.
ignoring her is stupid .. woman know you are pretending because they read subcommunication. you can be playful and funny .. maybe a funny neg but ignoring and brushing aside is not a good idea....the girl could be totally attracted to you. it looks like you are using mystery method ... giving attention to the guys keep brushing the girl off, do realize that 35% of the time you are brushing off attracted girls ....if a girl performs kino on you you have to reward it with a little bit of attention - ignoring would be like punishing the girl for touching you.
you actually have rejected her and i think she really feels bad.
second don't do NLP please, it's terrible .... you are overcomplicating things .. just have fun and be outside of your head. NLP is useless when it comes to pickup , other feats are way more important.
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set 3) Jed and I went to a bar, it was kind of dumpy, but we decided to play a game of pool. I opened two girls standing by the bar and got them interested. They decided to play pool with us. We worked on them all game. At the end of the game, I did the NLP routine on my partner, she said it worked, but not that well. Jed thought his girl was too tall and fat, so decided not to go for her, but just keep her distracted.
make it fun ... tell the girl she made a horrible shot and laugh it off etc. woman love challenge .. pool and other games are perfect. next time do kino while playing pool , make more challenge out of it and pretend like the gírls suck at pool. You guys are fixing too much on logical things , NLP again .. don't do stuff like that. don't judge girls , don't rate them on appearance ... no matter how the girl looks you have to game her in order to get better.
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I did the NLP routine on my partner, she said it worked, but not that well
shit test .. this was a shit test.
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Sticking points, the blond was into the NLP routine, but at the end, it didn't seem to have really worked on her. need to learn more things outside of the NLP routine, and need to learn the NLP routine better. Any suggestions
drop NLP and drop the NLP routine .. too much guys said it didn't work too well. focus more one stimulating the girl emotionally.
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set 4) I am labeling this one, "The Cougar". This was my first ever kiss close!
The girl was probably about in the 38 to 42 range. She was thin, blond and pretty damn good looking for a cougar. She was with her friend who was having daughter issues. At the beginning I was just listening, but then she began to show me the text messages that her friend's daughter was sending. Her friend went to the bathroom, and she started leaning into me, and asked me to kiss on her cheek, which I did. Then, she started to wonder where her friend was and went to find her. We moved on. I saw her again on the way out, said we were leaving but I am going to make both of our nights a little bit better, and then I made out with her, outside the bar as they were waiting for a cab.
this is huge .....
she went to the bathroom to isolate you with her friend ... everytime the other girl leaves mid game you can kiss close - she is leaving on purpose.
this woman shows something you don't have YET. full confidence .. she asked you to kiss ... (almost ) all woman never ask guys to kiss them - when a woman leans in you probably can kiss her. - she probably gave off alot of signals which you didn't see so she decided to initiate the kiss.
kissing woman is not a big deal .. really ..
ask girls for a number .. even if you failed mid game TRY TO GET a number because you have nothing to lose ... that milf ... get her number as well next time, just for the sake of experience.
in general ... guys .. drop the complicated stuff ... stop trying to pickup woman , try to get in state and have fun. you guys are little bit too rigid....
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