A couple of months ago I met this HB9 Russian girl at a club and I got her number. She had a boyfriend at the time and I randomly wrote her a simple hey how are you text message earlier today and she answered and later on I found out she doesn't have a boyfriend anymore. How should I ask her to go out some time? She thinks quite a lot about herself and I'd like to overcome that. What do you guys think + tip where to go? Simple go for a coffee or a much more classy place to impress?

Chat to her for a bit first, bit of neg push pull etc. Don't want her to think you spoke to her just to get her number and date even though you did. It'll make her wonder what's going on.

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HB's are used to guys trying to impress them with money. The get bought bottle of champagne in clubs, get free entry etc. She is used to it, so unless you are mega rich it wont impress her. Also that is never a way to go, impressing through material stuff. You should impress her by being you not anything else.

I would ask her out, but instead of going for something big and expensive. Go for impact something that is meaningful that she can anchor positive emotions to you. Something most guys haven't done for her before.

A coffee is a place to start, it is nice and simple, allows good conversation and you can always go for a bit of a walk afterwards.

If you can cook, that is something that i bet a guy hasn't done for her in a while. You could even actively involve her. Go to the supermarket with her pick out food together and then mess around while cooking together. She will be totally out her norm and will probably love the fact that she does have to just be the "HOT RUSSIAN" around you.

Remember a key point. You need to display that while you respect her beauty it is not that, that matters. You want to get to know the real her, not the outside her that she presents to the rest of the world. Even if you just wanna get in her pants.

GL

thanks the cooking idea is quite good, actually, but I definitely think I'd have to go out with her some time and talk a little, go for a walk till I could do something like that with her.

Sorry i misread, you only met her once right. Yea the cooking thing is date 2 + only lol. sorry i thought you had met her a couple times.

Yea i would maybe invite her out to something she isnt used to. Find out if she likes music, i bet she hasnt been to a gig in ages. Something original, not in her every day life yea that is key.

You know what she is like better than me so you have to judge that. But make sure when she looks back at it, that it is something she has done with you thus you have a positive anchor.

Well, she danced with me in the club even though so many men tried stuff on her, we also had quite a large conversation for that type of place. But she said she had a boyfriend after I tried something, not before so I guess she did enjoy it somewhat.

yea so ask her. get your game on and knock it out the park

What do u mean "tried something??" What the F is that!?

If she thinks very highly of herself, nothing that has been talked about back and forth here in this thread is of much good. U know how many people wanna go out on dates with HB 9's?? Almost 100% of the guys she comes in contact with every single day.

What makes u think you're gonna actually be awarded that? Unless there's something you're not telling us, there's prolly about 5 other guys exactly where u are with massive value and massive social proof. A night full of fancy, time-consuming stuff with one sole guy is like an interview that she would give to someone after collecting facts about this person and seriously be considering them as a potential mate.

I bet these other 5 guys are farther along than u are. Follow the proper channels and start negging her!

What do u mean "tried something??" What the F is that!?

If she thinks very highly of herself, nothing that has been talked about back and forth here in this thread is of much good. U know how many people wanna go out on dates with HB 9's?? Almost 100% of the guys she comes in contact with every single day.

What makes u think you're gonna actually be awarded that? Unless there's something you're not telling us, there's prolly about 5 other guys exactly where u are with massive value and massive social proof. A night full of fancy, time-consuming stuff with one sole guy is like an interview that she would give to someone after collecting facts about this person and seriously be considering them as a potential mate.

I bet these other 5 guys are farther along than u are. Follow the proper channels and start negging her!

I'm new to this site, so when I date girls it is all from my luck of being somewhat close to some of the rules. But, yes you are correct about the fact that other guys are in contact with her, prolly a lot more then 5 though :/

Well that's good! It will make your practice that much more brutal, thus getting maximum improvement if you fail!

I'm more curious as to what you "tried" on her. Hopefully it was something very cocky and forward and not just something like touching her hips or whatever. HB 9's like bold and daring (an assume the sale mentality). Most every other guy will pussyfoot around, not doing anything bold because they're too intimidated by her beauty or afraid it will backfire and F the whole thing up. Like a massive push-pull with a bold form of kino. Do it once or only use it sparingly though because there are guys she meets that will try and slobber all over her the whole night too. You can't stay in cocky push-pull if you're doing that and your value will bottom out quickly!

Well at first I thought she'd reject me tbh cuz the set was three hot girls, all prolly russian and i asked her to dance and we did and we sort of were showing off our moves in a fun way, she doing something pretty sexy. Then I left her after a while and went after another girl, made out with the other girl but she was like a HB6. Soon after that the DJ was throwing free cd's of his new album and the HB9 caught one and when I was close to her I smiled at her again and she pulled me to her and put the CD down my boxer's and after some more dancing I went for the kiss and she said she had a boyfriend. It was a couple of months ago so I can't tell you precise detail.

I went for a kiss in an elevator the other night and got rejected too. Hate that boyfriend shit. There's not much you can do about it. Before I go in for a kiss, I make sure there's a good bit of hand holding and the conversation is pretty sexual. Lots of times I'll talk what it would be like grabbing their tits and ass or having sex or something like that. If I get them smiling and responding positively about me talking about feeling them up and banging them, I usually know my next step will be making out with her.

I hope she didn't see you making out with the HB6. That would be a DLV. Girls usually compare themselves to other girls in situations like that and it would make her feel nasty looking if she saw that other girl as nasty looking. She will associate you with making her feel nasty and will avoid you because of that feeling. If she did see you, lie and tell her you did it because the girl said she'd buy you drinks all night or pay you in some way or something... or like get you a good job with her dad's company or something!

Ok so now you're going to have to:

Come cocky; come hard at her

avoid mentioning the word date when you try and set up the F2F

avoid bringing up the fact you tried kissing her

try to set up the next meeting in a social situation

neg her via text message

don't ask her to dinner

don't ask her to a movie

excite the hell out of her so she doesn't flake

convey social proof (like ask her if she wants to meet you for a drink for 45 min before you go partying with your friends). Even if you don't have friends to party with, just say that and meet her at a bar. Then you can fake text messages about where your friends are and what time you have to meet them

Haha! It sux that you have to do all this bullshit but she's a 9 dude. Comes with the territory. It's alot of dickin around that many guys don't even think is worth it. I do though... and I do all this kind of shit! Hahaha.

haha sounds cool, well there's a problem though.. actually two problems. There's this other HB9..also taken but she asked me to come to a club this saturday and mention me not being like other guys around her. That's the first one and the second is that there's even a third HB9 that is single and seems to be interested and isn't 2 years older than me like the other two. So I was thinking it could be a lot easier going for the third one since the first one gives me bs, second one is taken and this one is awesome + she's bisexual and I've spoken to her about threesomes so I think I'd do the best by going for the third one to be honest. It's quite funny, actually, what do you think I should do?

try the classic i just met your twin
then use it as an oppurtunity to flirt and then just say ' so when are you taking me out '

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