Hi guys!

I'm new to this whole pick-up thing, and after reading the game, which opened my mind, I bought a few books related to the subject (currently reading the Mystery Method). I'm seeing some good improvements on the field, but there's one thing I didn't learn anywhere : how to get the f*ck out of the friend zone?

See, there's a girl who was interested in me like two years ago, and I screwed my chances eventually by doing nothing. When I realized when I missed, I started loving her, but it was too late. So I did everything the worst AFC could do, I tried many times, talked to her about it many time etc. I messed up all my chances, but we're still good friends after all.

Now, seeing I have more success on the field, I would like to sarge her, but it's kinda hard ... we know each other too much, and she knows I might still love her (I don't love her anymore, I just want to "try" her, more than any other girl) so ... routines are just useless in that case.

What would you recommend? I'll be honest, even if I don't really love her anymore, there's no one else in the world who turns me on more than this girl ...

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Sam

And guess why you didn't find it anywhere..

Because it's next to impossible. If I remember correctly even Mystery has in The Game had his Oneitis and couldn't win her back.
No routines, no techniques will help you here. Only chance I know of, is to let go of the girl for at least one or two years. No contact whatsoever. Then after the time, you will change and she will see you as a new man, then you may have another chance with her.

But you must not be in touch with her at all for the entire time.

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awww damn pretty hard today with Facebook and everything, and we have lots of friends in common! but I guess that's the only way, I tought about it before but I was hoping there was another way

Yes it is hard today. And that is why it is better to just next her and become a true friend of her. Having a good female friend is a great asset.

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A guy perceived as dominant always has potential to create attraction. If you have enough inner game, more than likely, you won’t be in the “friend zone” even if you’re just a friend.

If you’re dead center in the friend zone, that means she sees you as a beta. Because women form sexual categories with more drastic differences, only a very noticeable change will alter her perception of you. Hence I would recommend withdrawing first for a while before re-engaging, and then running game as usual. In the process of running game it is more critical than ever to avoid any beta backsliding. You have less space for showing flaws in your subtle dominance, as it will instantly cause her to revert back to her old perception of you.

On the same token, the change MUST be illusive . If it becomes obvious that you’re consciously attempting to change your dynamic with her, the spell will be broken, and you’re back to massaging your balls with bengay.

Jealousy and push/pull must be utilized to nuclear proportions. Women will compete with each other for attention from males, and their hamsters eventually rationalize this as “oh, I must like him.” Pre-selection is the strongest form of social proof and the easiest way to create attraction. Push/pull helps with preventing the decay of attraction that comes from predictability — an obvious side effect of being friends first. You also have to establish higher value by teasing. Making fun of her / making her laugh should come naturally, like it was 2nd nature

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Thanks for your replies! You all agree to something : I must stay away from her for a while ... Or become great friends with her, which also could be interesting, not only to use her to get other girls (lol) but just .... to have her as a friend! I already have things planned with her this summer, after that I'll have to decide which option I take

one thing that hasnt been mentioned, whether you try now or in the future..... YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO LOSE HER AS A FRIEND, if you want to lay her. You can become someone else and all that, but when its time to pull the trigger, realise if it goes well or doesnt, the friendship is probably over for good

Ok to start youre already thinking too highly of her which 1. Will make it impossible to bag her, and 2. Makes you a beta which she will not be attracted to. Treat her like every other girl out there and give her no special attention. Also if you supposedly fell in love with this girl without even dating or without sexual contact at all you have some serious inner game issues to work on.