Now this may not be in the right place, but I didn't know where to go.

Anyway, from my personal experience recently, it almost seems like the girls out there that claim or seem like they are more innocent, are easier to get with than the ones that are supposedly sluts.

I dunno if maybe because I seem to come off as a "nice guy" or some shit...but I cant even tell you how many times ive heard "so and so is a slut" and I ended up getting almost nothing out of it....yet at the same time, I've taken an 18y/o's v-card (yea, i know...oops, haha)

So, anyone else experince this phenomenon, or have any insight on why in the hell it happens?

Im wondering if its cause maybe the "sluts" have experienced the game enough and they can tell I'm just trying to get it in, and they dont want to be one anymore?

You still need to game "slutty" girls.

Like Mystery Cat String Theory. And like how Mehow puts it "leave her suspended between hope and doubt.

Remember, girls who clamming sluts are still not easy. You still need game because you got other guys competing to sleep with her. How many numbers of guys do you think she has that she can sleep with if she wanted?

i am a slut ! you can ask me everything you want !

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Slutty girls have already decided in their heads that they will fuck someone. Now it's just a matter of CHOICE. Whoever fits her type the most, she will go for. Therefore it's understandable there's a lot of competition.

Guys know this girl is slutty and therefore there will be a lot of guys trying to get with her.

Now innocent girls . . . are innocent. They don't sleep around obviously. Guys feel that there's much more work to be invested in innocent girls because they won't just fuck you because you're attractive or whatever. It takes time and investment (in comparison to sluts).

Therefore there are usually LESS guys going for these innocent ones. Competition is therefore less as well and since they are not experienced, their chances of liking someone are increased.

^This is how I've concluded things because this is how it makes the most sense to me.

actually panda i think innocent woman are actually better to game ... you need to invest more - thus there is a higher chance of getting attracted to one.

however i think to many pua dudes hate insecure people because it remembers them from who they were before they went into the whole'' pua'' journey. they want a woman who is confident but why go after the same person with the same traits ? it sounds like someone like that wouldn't complete you ...

a innocent person will acknowledge your confidence because you automatically lead the relationship. a confident woman will always try to prove her own confidence and you will always have arguements.

i think you should do the counter inuitive when i comes to picking woman.... i mean everyone wants a hot blonde girl but does it really makes you happy on long term ?

the reason less guys are going for the innocent ones is because they are harder to game , take more time and flake faster..... you need better game to get them - you need to be senstive and give them the space and time to show their best selfs.

to many guys are just cavemanning these innocent girls too directly ... all insecure people want is to be NOT INSECURE .. they want someone who cares and give them some space to convey their personality - they want to be in the moment. guys do not understand this ... i actually hate guys who are clowning in front of insecure girls.. poor girls .. lol.

slutty girls have more competition ... mmm well everyone wants to fuck them including you ... lol .... i think you need to be honest with yourself regarding these topics.

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If we're talking relationship/long term stuff - then I agree. But I thought the OP was referring to simple PUA lays and SNL's.

while "innocent" girls may be easier to game per se personally if i think a girl is too innocent or naive i wouldn't game her. Mainly because I KNOW the type of guy I am and i wouldn't want to screw around with someone that doesn't deserve that kind of punishment.

Now with girls that i know are easier or open sexually i dont mind gaming or closing with. Because 9/10 times they won't get attached they just see it as part of the game... so i don't feel bad about it. I am not in the business of lying or hurting a girls feelings. When i game i am straight forward about my intentions and the way things may turn out.

Panda I defintiely agree with what you were saying, it goes right along with my side of the infamous is it easier for guys or girls to get laid argument. (easier for chicks btw)

Anyway, Lode...(sorry, cant remember the whole name haha) I wouldnt really say I typically go out and try to "game" innocent ones, cause as andd95 said...its just kinda wrong. I guess overall though for some reason it seems like I end up having better success with ones that arent just you typical "slut" for some reason.

Although, this could be a refelction of my experiences back home...I just moved to cali a few months ago and I dont know if I've met a girl I'd consider "innocent" yet out here, hahaha.

The reason why "innocent" girls seem easier to get with is that "innocent" girls like to follow the traditional courtship ritual. You meet them, go out for coffee or a movie, then you fuck her after a few dates. The reason why you don`t have the same results with "sluts" is because you try to "court" them in the same manner you would an "innocent" girl, which is wrong. "Sluts" know they are sluts, so treating them normal is "acting weird" to them.

Innocent girls are easier to game because they have lower self esteem than sluts. Sluts know they are attractive (physically anyway) thus they have inflated egos which will make it harder to game them successfully. Innocent girls on the other hand have less men trying to sleep with them yet generally have the same sex drive as sluts. Therefore they more or less have to take what they can get, maint them easier to game. This is talking short term of course.

and here i thought that the pretty girls had t he lower self esteem... or at least they do most of the time..