i have no idea what i am doing wrong, i have slept with this girl about 4 times now and the furthest i have gotten was kissing her, playing with her cat:), cuddled, rubbed her pussy, nibble on her boobs grasp them kiss her on the neck. basically and sleep shirtless with her. she is comfortable me touching her anywhere and in any way. those 4 nights i have not fucked her i have tried, i tried gently slippin her pants,sweats off after escaladeing kino i have tried it all she would just gently move my hand away out of those four nights i tried taking them off 3 times so 3 times 4 id say 12 times total. me and her use to fuck all the time 4 months ago. but now i would have assumed it would be easier to fuck her but i was wrong its harder. i see this girl everyday at school and i have class with her. so really someone enlighten me with what is going on, or what i am doing wrong?!!!

im pretty sure i have not landed in the LJBF zone!!!

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I suggest freeze out...and not call her for the next 3 day's or so...trust me. Me and my ex I didn't see her not one day and I slept with her 3 day's later.

You used to fuck her all the time 4 months ago. How do you define all the time? She literally lets you rub her pussy, but won't let you fuck her? I'd stop rubbing her pussy. I would freeze her out completely, as suggested. Either she's playing you, lying to you, or maybe she's recently had a bad experience that you don't know about. Maybe a rape or something? So, freeze her out, then see where it goes. If still nothing, talk to her openly and honestly to see if there IS something deeper.

pretty much what he said. i wouldn't ask why she doesn't fuck you though..lol Don't make it apparent you want sex...even though you do.

Well I think she already knows what you want it's apparent to us then it's apparent to her. LA Tripp always has great advice from what i have read. Go with that.The only missing thing I could think of because it happened to me is she might be sleeping with someone else you don't know of, and feels bad, but likes your attention so just stop giving it like LA Trpp says.

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BRENT AKA "HOLLYWOOD"

You're being too obvious in your desire for sex. In 4 days, you tried to fuck her 12 times?! That's ridiculous. I get it, trust me, but that's AFC, not PUA. As a PUA, you need to learn to control your wants and deny yourself in order to get what you really want, because if you ask for what you really want, you won't get it, so you have to make her try to sell it to you. Its like when someone says, "You'll never guess!" and you start guessing and they just sit there all smug and go, "Nope! Nope! Hahaha! No!" As soon as you go, "Fuck it, I don't care," what do they do? They fight to get your attention back and they tell you. Same thing in this situation. You stop trying to fuck her, you sit there and watch a movie with her lying on the bed, or a couch, in a position that you would normally start groping each other in, but keep your hands to yourself. Don't show any interest in her body, don't look at her tits, don't look at her ass or anything, she's just a person, don't think sex. Soon she will start pawing at you and then you slap her hand away gently and act like you're enthralled by the movie. She'll start to whine and beg for it. So you say, "Alright, I can see you're suffering there. You can have three sucks." Say this all seriously and pull down your pants and let her have 3 sucks on your dick, then tell her that's all she gets. I don't care how good she is and how bad you want it, just do it. Then you ask her if she enjoyed it and tell her she can have 5 next time. Soon you'll have her begging to be fucked as hard as you can.

That's routine is from The Game. I believe it was Rasputin that taught it to Style, but it might have been Steve P.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

exactly what they said. next time you hang out and she starts to initiate kino just ignore it and change the subject.. you gotta freeze out man. also, the 3 sucks method works once you get that far.. after you get her going like that freeze out some more and since she's already halfway there she'll jump your bones...

as with above, the only thing other than her seeing how bad you want it is that she was either A: raped or B: contracted some type of STD or C: on the rag

Hey man, you have read the truth from this group, basically we are all in agreement. Freeze her has out, and watch how you get into her.

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i lust for jessica alba, but now since she is preggers. I am lusting for Nicole!!! It's New Year's Day. It was Ben Franklin who said, "Be always at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let each new year find you a better man."

i agree fellas, ill freeze her out definetly. after i think about it i think i did show that i wanted to do her, because you know i got over whelmed and Escalading kino in bed, must have goten me all giddy. *update*
i hung out with her tonight, and we talked like normal people and had dinner. she paid for her meal .. but i recently found out she still is in touch with her ex bf. but i know how to deal with that just have a lot of fun with her and make her forget about him.

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