How to get past the small talk bullshit?



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:45 am 
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Okay so I get that confidence is key. But for me even if I show a lot of confidence it quickly dies because I have no clue what to say. I also revert to asking the same old boring questions. Even if I get past the routines etc its still goes to the boring questins..


how do I get past this crap


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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:24 am 
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So, a lot of guys hide behind "small talk" as a way of making sure they don't offend the girl, and use it to try to build rapport with her so she likes them, in the hopes that this will turn into sexual attraction at some later stage.

If you're using smalltalk for this reason, then yeah, it's annoying and boring because it's INAUTHENTIC. (Check out Sasha's post about this here here-vp403661.html) You know you're being a douche, and so your brain shuts down that part that usually, amongst close friends, can come up with witty, off-the-cuff humour, jokes, stories and banter.

My trick for getting over this, is to simply be DIRECT about my intentions from the very beginning. When I was using INdirect stuff, I'd spend ages in that zone of talking about pointless shit, hoping I'd be able to somehow, someway, sometime, move the conversation to a place where I could start getting sexual with her. Either I never got that far, or it never happened. Usually, I was so worried about keeping all the routines straight in my head, and GOD FORBID accidentally telegraphing my interest too soon.

By going DIRECT, you immediately put it out there that yeah, you're hitting on her. If you project that using your confidence, then she only has 2 choices. Stick around (she's interested) or fuck off (not interested). That's it. For the ones that stay (REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY SAY), you're then free to say whatever the fuck you like. If you've already been upfront and honest about the fact you're hitting on her - why not be upfront and honest about the fact that her ass looks fucking sexy in that dress, and all you can think about is sliding her panties down and fucking her right there over the bar, with everyone watching?

Or, if you don't wanna be that sexual, just tell her what it is about her that you initially found attractive, and why it is you decided to come over. From there, maybe tell a random story about something that happened to you recently, and then basically find out about her. But find out what YOU want to know, not what you think SHE wants to hear. If you don't really give a shit where she's from or what she does, don't ask it. Talk about what YOU'RE interested in, and see if there's anything you guys connect on.

Talking to her about what you like and appreciate in friends and lovers, means that she will naturally qualify herself regarding those traits. That's an easy way to lead into stories about your friends and past relationships, as well as setting the frame that you have come over and chosen her, and now she has to prove to YOU why she's worth your time.

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don't ask questions at all....

only ask question if you are knowing what she's going to say and you are going to make a funny comment about it.

dont talk to fast and dont stack too much material in a small space of time, if you feel a block or freeze coming up AKA'' you are going into your mind'' and out of state you need to get into state...... tell her to wait and go walk around the club making jokers and doing retarded shit that gets you into the right state of mind.
when im calling a girl i always call friends first and go bust eachother balls with fun cokcy comments to get into that frame of mind.....

its better to leave the girl instead of running dry and out of state, leave before she loses attraction - and remember the one that leaves hold the most power ( in most cases ) ,you can always recover if he hasn't lost attraction.

it's a mental state / personality issue ... you are probably fixing too much on opening and lines, that's why you are neglecting the follow up. Build some character , work on inner game and try to go out and have fun....

don't try to pickup chicks but try to have fun yourself ! if people see you are having a good time the natural conversation will follow.

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Lack of ongoing conversation skills is a killer for me.. Not only with the ladies, but in social settings in general.. I feel that my life needs a change here drastically.. I go into my head too much and tend to isolate.. It's really hard to break this pattern.. I certainly haven't found the man in me that is able to directly hit on a woman and keep a sustained interest level from her... I wish.. I think I'm too fucked up to truly enjoy and know how to engage in this game..

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O because I have no clue what to say. I also revert to asking the same old boring questions....


how do I get past this crap
simple: let her talk :) !

For example ( of course depending on the situation and phase you are):
[you]: "so tell me, three best qualities of yourself"
[HB]:....blababla....
[you]....so you consider.....blabla...as your best quality?! [neg]
[HB]:...blablablabla
[you]: Ok.I LET you have this one...what about your second best quality?
[HB]:...babalbalba..
[you interrupting her]:....are you serious???....[neg]
[HB]:...blablabla.





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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:13 pm 
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Your asking questions cos you want to keep the conversation going.
Let her do some of the work.

It should be push/pull.

Say some statements rather than questions.

Example -
"the music - in hear is great I love this song"

"Im having such a good day today, I was out playing football with my friends"

"I was at the cinema yesterday, I saw the new Bond film. It was badass. I love all the Bond movies"


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