Hi gentlemen, i am sure all of you here attest to the game's effectiveness, and how it helps you express yourself more as a person. And i am sure you guys have managed to nail a couple of exciting successes here and there and a great story along with it. (Recently, after a basketball game and a playful grin, 2 blondes approached me to chat. i got both their no's. Lol)

But my challenge/question is this: based on your understanding of game, how do u guys feel it is possible for nerds, frustrated chumps and people with ABSOLUTELY no "game" at ALL still get laid or at least a decent girl friend in college? For some imagery, these are the dudes who would not stand a chance in a club: glasses, noticeable nervousness, random comments, and talking about the latest computers, nice but, hardly as challenge

Share your views!

Well, let's be honest here... If we aren't or used to be chumps, we wouldn't be here. 50 % of the so called PUA's talk a big talk but do they walk a big walk...? I think in the end we use to game to fullfill a need we miss in our life, some become good at it, others find the love of their life and get married. As long as the person using it for his purposes is happy with himself.

and can those guys learn, offcourse they can, if they are open for new things, everybody can learn.

Absolutely

Im 5'6 and weigh about 55 kg. And look 16 when im turning 19.
Although ive always been a bit of a conversationalist, it counts for NOTHING if you have no idea how to seduce a girl. Especially when you look young and non-sexual at all, someone like me would always fall into the friend zone immediately if they went about things the way I used to.

For example, Id meet girls and agree to what they say to seem "Likeable", and would crack a lot of funny jokes, without kinoing or being a challenge at all. Friendzoned 100% of the time from grade 6 to high school, and I asked out about 10 girls. Thats more than a girl a year!

In my final year of school I got into this stuff, and although I had NO game at all, was completely non-attractive (no girl could picture me having sex, lmao my girl friends told me that back in the day), I learnt:
-How to take advantage of looking non-sexual/non-intimidating
-How to appear sexual by kino escalating
-How to use my lack of shyness to appear dominant (Im the shortest but the girl im currently seeing says I have the most "presence". That is the best compliment a guy like me, being known for being tiny can possibly get)
-How to not be a pushover to anyone/be a challenge to females

I in no way consider myself a very good PUA, but I know for a fact I do much better than the average guy
Im super impressed with my improvement, and thank this forum and this whole concept so freaking much.

So yeah, 110% my friend. I consider my old self to be the most "no game at all" kind of guy (except for the lack of shyness, but everything else) and now Ive banged more girls than pretty much every friend I have!
It takes practice, and an understanding to KNOW that rejection really is nothing, and although I used to think "Itl hurt my confidence", you find out that it just doesnt



In fact, im going to say its all about understanding how not-bad rejection is, getting used to rejection asap (At the start I went out TO get rejected. Id come home with 10 rejections cos of bad approaches, but id feel proud that I know I improved, and learned that rejection is not bad at all). After that, its just about numbers, trying as many girls as you can. Once you build confidence also (which you get from experimenting and getting well...rejected) a good portion of the girls you approach will be giving you so called IOIs left right and center.

excellent poll