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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:06 am 
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I am a Chinese American. I want to ask if studying PUA technique will help me. I understand that there is in general, a media bias against Asians in America. I want to read come comments from the perspective of Asian PUA, and their own experience in attracting women. So, do you think women would respond well if an Asian guy talk to them?


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I am a Korean American and I haven't really had any problems with seducing women in America. My English is perfect, however, and I have an American accent. If your English isn't perfect I would imagine that having any sort of Asian accent would be a turn off.

I'm just guessing that you might have an accent judging from the grammatical errors you made in your post.


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ouch. accents are a real turn off?


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ouch. accents are a real turn off?
In America, European accents are considered a turn-on, but Asian accents are the opposite.

It's actually just a matter of whether you stress your consonants or your vowels. In most European accents, the vowels are more stressed than the consonants. Therefore it sounds smooth, relaxing, and sensual. In Asian accents, the consonants are more stressed than the vowels. Therefore it sounds rough, alarming, and sometimes even rude.

Swinggcat actually teaches his students to stress their vowels when speaking.


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I am a Korean American and I haven't really had any problems with seducing women in America. My English is perfect, however, and I have an American accent. If your English isn't perfect I would imagine that having any sort of Asian accent would be a turn off.

I'm just guessing that you might have an accent judging from the grammatical errors you made in your post.

Well, I am just bad at grammar. I don 't have any accent when I talk, but I have bad grammar. After seeing your blog, I am guessing that you are still at school? UCLA? Anyways, I think there is a significant difference between school, and the "real world". If you don 't mind me asking, how old are you? I am new in pua. I am very interested If i can have a private interview with you on your own transformation. Being Asian, I want to know what your experience.


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I'm Vietnamese born American, and I have accent when I talk. Some dig it and think it's cute, some don't. But most of the time, it all comes down to my frame and confidence. It doesn't matter if you have accent or not, if you speak loudly with brimming confidence, girls accept it and they don't really care about that detail.
However, I also adapted my game to 60s which uses a lot silence and low tone voice, it does help and doesn't require me to speak a lot. Action does speak louder than words after all.
I do find the problem with being Asian is stereotype and prejudice, I had girls reject me even before I can say something. There are a lot of Americans ppl who are still conservative about Asian culture. So some of the girl makes decision before you can game her, which makes everything is harder since all her body languages close up on you.
But I also had girls that literally jump at me because the fact I'm Asian and have gut to come hitting on HB 10s
As for Asian PUAs, I would say work on kino and escalate, as well as sexual framing. Also body languages, because of our cultures, we do have more conservative body languages comparing to westerner. The hard part is actually getting the girls to open up and agree to try new experience or expose themselves to new cultures.
Most of the time, I have problem within the pre-selection, as long as they are interested enough to stay and talk to me, it usually leads to day2 90% out of thel times, and I always end day2 with either making out or sex.


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Well, I am just bad at grammar. I don 't have any accent when I talk, but I have bad grammar. After seeing your blog, I am guessing that you are still at school? UCLA? Anyways, I think there is a significant difference between school, and the "real world". If you don 't mind me asking, how old are you? I am new in pua. I am very interested If i can have a private interview with you on your own transformation. Being Asian, I want to know what your experience.
I have no idea where you got UCLA from but I was never a student there.

I'm currently finishing my degree in South Korea, but I did transfer from a school in America. I'm currently just 21 but I still have plenty of experience with "real world" game, probably more so than college game.

The main difference between college game and real world game is the social circle aspect. Colleges/universities are mostly about social circle game while girls don't have as much of the aversion to "randoms" (hooking up with guys they don't already know via social circles) in the real world. Randoms seem to be more OK for university girls in Korea, though, for some reason.

I always went against Asian stereotypes, so the fact that I'm Asian was never really a significant factor in my progress with pickup. I saw myself as my own person rather than as an "Asian," and I think other people did as well.

I suck at video games, I can't play starcraft without putting in those cheat codes, I'm terrible at math and I hate it, I have good taste in music, I quit piano, I play guitar in rock bands, I can barely read sheet music, I'm very patriotic about being American, I dress like a rocker, and most of my friends in America were not Asian. Since I project my own unique identity so strongly, my race is barely ever a factor. Of course, there are some girls who just aren't attracted to Asian guys at all no matter what. It doesn't matter, though.


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Well, I am just bad at grammar. I don 't have any accent when I talk, but I have bad grammar. After seeing your blog, I am guessing that you are still at school? UCLA? Anyways, I think there is a significant difference between school, and the "real world". If you don 't mind me asking, how old are you? I am new in pua. I am very interested If i can have a private interview with you on your own transformation. Being Asian, I want to know what your experience.
I have no idea where you got UCLA from but I was never a student there.

I'm currently finishing my degree in South Korea, but I did transfer from a school in America. I'm currently just 21 but I still have plenty of experience with "real world" game, probably more so than college game.

The main difference between college game and real world game is the social circle aspect. Colleges/universities are mostly about social circle game while girls don't have as much of the aversion to "randoms" (hooking up with guys they don't already know via social circles) in the real world. Randoms seem to be more OK for university girls in Korea, though, for some reason.

I always went against Asian stereotypes, so the fact that I'm Asian was never really a significant factor in my progress with pickup. I saw myself as my own person rather than as an "Asian," and I think other people did as well.

I suck at video games, I can't play starcraft without putting in those cheat codes, I'm terrible at math and I hate it, I have good taste in music, I quit piano, I play guitar in rock bands, I can barely read sheet music, I'm very patriotic about being American, I dress like a rocker, and most of my friends in America were not Asian. Since I project my own unique identity so strongly, my race is barely ever a factor. Of course, there are some girls who just aren't attracted to Asian guys at all no matter what. It doesn't matter, though.
I don 't think I ever had problems finding attractive girls at 21. I mentioned UCLA, but it was just a guess. There are loads of Korean people at the school.

School is very different the real world. In the "real world", people go to work from 9 to 6. There is no build in social time, and you are most likely around people who are much older, fatter, and uglier than college girls. There is also work discrimination.


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I'm Vietnamese born American, and I have accent when I talk. Some dig it and think it's cute, some don't. But most of the time, it all comes down to my frame and confidence. It doesn't matter if you have accent or not, if you speak loudly with brimming confidence, girls accept it and they don't really care about that detail.
However, I also adapted my game to 60s which uses a lot silence and low tone voice, it does help and doesn't require me to speak a lot. Action does speak louder than words after all.
I do find the problem with being Asian is stereotype and prejudice, I had girls reject me even before I can say something. There are a lot of Americans ppl who are still conservative about Asian culture. So some of the girl makes decision before you can game her, which makes everything is harder since all her body languages close up on you.
But I also had girls that literally jump at me because the fact I'm Asian and have gut to come hitting on HB 10s
As for Asian PUAs, I would say work on kino and escalate, as well as sexual framing. Also body languages, because of our cultures, we do have more conservative body languages comparing to westerner. The hard part is actually getting the girls to open up and agree to try new experience or expose themselves to new cultures.
Most of the time, I have problem within the pre-selection, as long as they are interested enough to stay and talk to me, it usually leads to day2 90% out of thel times, and I always end day2 with either making out or sex.
Interesting...

How old are you, and how old were the girls that rejected you at the pre-screening stage?


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Interesting...

How old are you, and how old were the girls that rejected you at the pre-screening stage?
I'm 24 actually, and usually I got rejected by much older girls, like 28-35 range, those that are desperated to get married. The younger generation are more exposed to asian cultures with the internet around, hence they're more open to the idea of hooking up with an asian guy.
Chicks that like video games and anime is a no brainer for asian btw, I didn't even have to game them.


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Interesting...

How old are you, and how old were the girls that rejected you at the pre-screening stage?
I'm 24 actually, and usually I got rejected by much older girls, like 28-35 range, those that are desperated to get married. The younger generation are more exposed to asian cultures with the internet around, hence they're more open to the idea of hooking up with an asian guy.
Chicks that like video games and anime is a no brainer for asian btw, I didn't even have to game them.
I assume you are working? How do you find the time to game girls? Do you approach these girls at clubs? Where are you located? US?


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I assume you are working? How do you find the time to game girls? Do you approach these girls at clubs? Where are you located? US?
I live in Texas, and I'm not working at the moment. I graduated last May, and yes there is a significant difference between gaming in college and gaming in real life. College tends to be easier, doesn't require lot of in-depth game and strong inner game. You can compensate all those with the social value you build within the school. Too bad I didn't discover PUAs until my last year in college.
And here I am, finding myself trying to adapt my game to the real world. Sarging venues need to change, mostly malls, bookstores, markets. I'm not really into nighgame, I'm more focus on having fun with friends when I'm there and girls opened me often, mostly because I'm really good at dancing. I never tried to game those girls though, I rarely #close them.
But yea, I'm working on improving my inner game, and I find it's really hard to cope with theses girls schedule vs the girls in college. I mean I have to literally schedule the date at least couple days in advance, no one hour notice date like college. Oh and also I do more online gaming now since I find it a much easier way to sarge for younger girls.


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I assume you are working? How do you find the time to game girls? Do you approach these girls at clubs? Where are you located? US?
I live in Texas, and I'm not working at the moment. I graduated last May, and yes there is a significant difference between gaming in college and gaming in real life. College tends to be easier, doesn't require lot of in-depth game and strong inner game. You can compensate all those with the social value you build within the school. Too bad I didn't discover PUAs until my last year in college.
And here I am, finding myself trying to adapt my game to the real world. Sarging venues need to change, mostly malls, bookstores, markets. I'm not really into nighgame, I'm more focus on having fun with friends when I'm there and girls opened me often, mostly because I'm really good at dancing. I never tried to game those girls though, I rarely #close them.
But yea, I'm working on improving my inner game, and I find it's really hard to cope with theses girls schedule vs the girls in college. I mean I have to literally schedule the date at least couple days in advance, no one hour notice date like college. Oh and also I do more online gaming now since I find it a much easier way to sarge for younger girls.
So, you began your pua study in less than 1 year while studying for your senior year in college? It seems you did a lot.

These girls you #close. Do you know them from your friends? I said you have an accent, so I am thinking you came to this country in your freshman year?


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Yea I came to the state in my senior year of high school, so about 5-6 yrs and I discovered PUAs last February while doing some research on NLPs for psy class. Most of the girls I #close are random ones I met on the street or at venues, as well as online. Usually I just add girls I know from friends on FB.
I read a lot of psy books cuz I was interested in becoming a mentalist. It does help a lot witth PUAs, it covers more than just the pickup aspect, so I'd say I improved fast because I can read those girls and their body languages, I usually adjust my game right on the spot depending on their reaction to my routines


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So, you came to the states "after" 15 years old? This is amazing. You language formation skills stop at 15, but it seems you have no problem scoring chicks even with your problem. I also came at 15, but I was never an expert at scoring chicks.

Can I ask you how you handle those "shit tests" from girls? Do you score with non-Asian girls often? What is your day game average, or how often do you score girls?


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