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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:12 pm 
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So today i done my second day of approaching my first day was about 2 month back i no, after my first time which went pretty well i didnt approach for 2 whole month.

So today after work note this weekend went partying got hammerd clasped woke up with no eye brows at a house party haha all part of the fun though so anyway heres the convo i could of done waaaaaaay better but i approached so im buzzing

There she was a hb 9 walking down the road me there in my tesco uniform no eyebrows an my shoes for work are a little well broke but i had to approach i made my mind up all day i would.

me excuse me love
hb yer
me your stunning you
she went realy shy but was smiling she didnt say anythin
me so are you single
hb no sorry iv got a bf
me ah well atleast i tried

that was it i was nervous as hell since it was first approach i aint sure if she had a bf or not but i dont care i just wanted to approch my question is

is this opener ok i have a real poor memory an this is simple for me to remember can i retry this opener an will i get results from it if i keep trying or is it to direct an im wasting my time,

after iv opened ill just ask questions go with the flow but when im rehearsing one in my head it makes it so hard to approach any advice tips what i could of said would be greatly appreciated cheers guys.


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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:35 pm 
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I never ever mention the word boyfriend when gaming. I could honestly careless if you're single or not. If I see a wedding ring I'll still game for the hell of it, but won't cross the boarder.

Any mention of the word boyfriend or husband immediately turns them off. Like they know they shouldn't be talking to you because of this fact.

So by not mentioning it, it doesn't come across their mind, and they continue to be open to whatever I'm saying.


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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:52 pm 
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Well done for going out there and giving it a shot!

The compliment and finding out if they're single is absolutely right! However, you'll increase your chances of having a favourable interaction if you stick to some key points.

(1) Pre-frame.

The pre-frame is designed to both get her attention, pace her reality, and soften the randomness of the compliment.

For example, saying something like "listen, I know this is a bit random, but I saw you walking past, and I just had to say..."

What is does is explain exactly what's going on, show you understand what she might be feeling, and leads her to expect the compliment in a nice way, rather than just come straight out and saying "I think you're hot" or whatever it is.

(2) The compliment. It can be anything that suits how you talk. I say things like "gorgeous" because I'm a pompous git who actually talks like that. It may not sound congruent for you. "Hot" is a bit too general and vague. Better to verge on the side of "fucking sexy," and be a little bit different, then saying a bland "cute" and having her take it with a polite smile and start walking away. The BEST compliments are the ones that are truly GENUINE - the more you can actually say about what SPECIFIC features you like (her hair, her fashion, her sexy legs, her confident walk, etc.) the better.

(3) What to say after the compliment

This is the subject of many articles and videos. The important stuff, is

i. Don't wait for her reaction to your compliment. Say it, and move right along

ii. Introduce yourself and get her name. The simplest way to quickly make her comfortable in your presence and build rapport is to say her name to her a few times during your conversation.

iii. Find out stuff about her in a slightly different, unique, funny or interesting way.
=> "Where are you from?" "Are you single?" "What do you do?" are all perfectly reasonable questions, BUT, they are boring, she's heard them a million times before, and now it's all starting to feel like a bad pickup, instead of a unique, romantic moment. Instead of those, try

"I bet you're from Nigeria" when she's white

"You're either an architect, or a CIA sniper" to find out what she does

"How many boyfriends do you have?" to find out if she's single. Furthermore, keep going a bit and test whether, if she says she has a BF, he's actually REAL or not, if it's serious, and that kind of thing. Often girls will say they have a BF because they're nervous or shy, or they'd kinda seeing their ex and are maybe just looking for something casual. You don't know until you find out!

For more info on how have FUN doing successful daygame approaches, check out this free video series from the Daygame Guru and legend, Sasha http://www.sashapua.com/get-my-free-vid ... t-approach

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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 6:55 pm 
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yes i understand what you mean about pre-frame i will have to add this when im doing approaches in my head which iv been doing this one for the past 3 days.

an you have cleared alot up about not asking boring questions an adding a spin on them tbh iv never even thought about that ill have to write a few up an see which one i like the best thanks guys for your help

an can you also give me a kick up the arse i can only approach girls when i see them directly in front of me when there infront it seems so wierd doing it i was walkin behind one today before this approach an i didnt open felt like shit after it but redeemed myself with this one.

what im going to do is take a drawstring bag to work an put decent clothes in them then change when i finish work an i plan to do one everyday in the week except tues an weds because i finish early an the place is dead.

anyway guys going to celebrate tonight with a few splifs an a chinese.


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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:42 pm 
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I'm proud of u for getting started but that approach was absolutely horrible. If she's truly a 9, she hears that exact same thing prolly 30 times a day. I'm surprised she didn't tell u to fuck off!


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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:02 am 
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thanks for the reply love getting critiscm only way to learn
30 times i thought men approachin girls is rare
in england i only know myself personally who does it
i will visualise what blondie said an map it out in my head
i plan to do atleast 1 per day
full direct is the only way i can go
is there a higher risk option but more reward that is simple way to open
once i connect with a girl game comes naturally


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