Hi there!
I'm new to the PUA community, im currently at university and kinda fed up with my luck with women, until i stumbled across the pua community at the start of the easter holidays, which has given me new hope! This stuff seems like it works, and as soon as i get back from the month off ive had, ill be using everything ive learned on campus and nights out, i literally cant wait! Anyways the most important thing that i wanted to learn, where this whole thing started, is that im kinda in the freind zone, well i am and im not. To be honest im not even sure, ill try and describe the relationship with this girl as best i can, and hopefully some of you might be able to help a guy who doesn't want to be an AFC anymore out.

Histroy:
Lets call the girl amy for names sake. Basicly she lives in the same palce of residence as me, at the start of uni we formed a pretty tight group of 3 girls and 3 guys including myself. Back then i was a total AFC, and in the first week amy, who was the only single girl of the 3, asked me what kind of girls im into in the first week on a night out, and asked me if i wanted a girl from uni or from my hometown (note: she knew from earlier in the day i was also from the same town as she was, which is unusual at my university as its pretty far away) and i said preferably both, totally failed on a decent window and possibly an IoI there, ah well.

Anyways one of the other two guys, lets call him fred, basically played a super aggressive strategy with amy and she caved pretty easily, meaning that i stepped back from her a bit, not really wanting to get into a fight with this guy over a girl i didn't know that well, when this guy was clearly going to be a close freind for many years to come. Anyways she started getting quite cold with me in the week that preceded while she flirted with fred and he flirted back. Anyways they go out for 2 weeks after that, fred turns out to be a totally emotionally unstable guy and so they have a pretty messy breakup, anyways long story short im being the stupid afc, sat up the top of the stairs till 4-5 in the morning with her crying on my shoulder, saying that she never should of gone out with someone in halls. Then in the following months fred gets even crazyer, threatening suicide over this girl saying he loved her ect, being a totally attention seeking child(everyone thinks so now, not just me, everyone now hates him in halls, cept for me and the other guy, that are kinda his only freinds so we put up with it) Anyways amy gets pissed at me claiming that i was picking ben over her becuase i was really busy one week and didnt talk/speak to her, which was just retarded i didn't even realize.

Since she broke up with him she has been spending alot of time with me, firstly talking about another girl i liked about the same time she broke off with fred, and for a month or so she talked to me about her and other things and fred, we bonded pretty well and become close as friends. And i probably exhibited some major DLV here, telling her id never been in a proper relationship ect.

Then it all changed. 2 nights we went out in the space of 2 weeks changed everything. They were drunk nights, but there was lots of arms round shoulders, pictures of me holding her at the thigh ect, basically kino apart from kiss close on those two nights, and then our relationship started to changed. She clearly was kino'ing me a few times, stroking me on the leg, tickling me ect in my room at 3-4 in the morning. Basicly our relationship now is that she basically finds any excuse to spend time with me, usually coming to my room around 10-11pm until 4am in the morning, watching tv and just generally fooling around. I tease the hell out of her these days, which i know she loves, and shes been sending off some major iois, playing with her hair all the time, kino, shes given me a pet nickname lol, smiling, really long eye contact, refusing to see me unless shes got perfect makeup ect, which has been pretty funny some occasions, literally inventing excuses to spend time with me. She know initiates pretty much all of our time together, always asking to come up to my room, always texting me in the day, striking up fb convos all the time with me, i basically put no effort into contacting her now. So your probably asking why i haven't pulled the trigger yet? becuase trust me you dont need to be a PUA to realize she likes me, and im not the only one whos noticed, two other people have commented on how into me she is, and also i overheard her basically saying she likes me to her freind.
Edit: reading over that i probably didn't make the best cases for IOIs, but this has been going on for about 3 months now, and i have had platonic relationships with a fair few girls before, and i know this is anything but, trust me on this when i say she OBVIOUSLY likes me.

The thing is tho shes dropped some major hints in our conversation for me not to pursue her, which is whats totally thrown me. Shes said she sees me like family in a relevant conversation, another time we were talking about fred being jealous of me spending time with her and she says he doesn't get that she can do stuff with me without leading me on. And also we were talking about relationships and she said "you want to be in a relationship dont you?" and i said yes, and then she said "i personally am happy being single at the moment", although she also said she isn't into the whole dating things, she prefers a relationship to come naturally out of friends which i guess is a plus. I just don't get it, cos like is said it so bloody obvious she is crazy for me, yet she says stuff like that, i mean what game is she playing? Is she trying to rationalize out of a relationship at the moment? is she in denial that she likes me? or is it just the AFC attitude Ive had thats making her pull back, and that i need to tone things up? Or is she playing hard to get? With the rationalize out of it thing, i know that two ridiculously good looking guys, who are actually nice blokes too, and are medical students, so pretty much perfect guys, after kissing her on a night out, have asked her out, and shes said no, which her friends think shes crazy for, so maybe shes really convinced herself not to be in a relationship right now and needs some pushing?

Game plan:
Anyways heres my plan to increase my activeness:

1) Gonna try and become the AMOG in our group, as some other guys (not fred, bu the other guy) got it at the moment but i think im in a pretty good position to take it now things have changed.

2) Going to try and sexualy frame more, but this should be hard, shes knows me pretty well now, and this cant come off as too obvious, so anyone have some stuble ways of sexualy framing stuff?

3) obviously im gonna try and improve my body language around her and my confidence, also i had some stuff going on at home which upset me at the start of uni, now after this easter break i can burst forward with the confidence i usually have which ive been lacking so far.

4) kino escalate, going to try and respond to her kino better, becuase shes escalated way higher than me in the past, sitting on my lap ect when ive just sat there like a lemon. again tho this needs to be subtle, i cant just change my personality 360 otherwise shell know somethings up

5) teasing is pretty much perfect, i know how to push her buttons and to make her laugh pretty much uncontrollably on demand at the moment, really don't have an issue with this.

6) showing interest: this again needs to be really subtle, don't want the "what are you doing/do you like me" conversation too early, or at all if possible.

7) Pre-selction: i already have 3 girls who sent me a valentines on my course, if i can introduce these girls to her, and show the way they are all over me, should make her jealous, plus if i start using the PUA stuff on nights out to get kiss closes when im out with her, this should work too. Oh btw is using her as a pivot a good idea? obviously i wont tell her about the PUA community , ill just ask her to be my wing women, is this a good idea? im thinking it'll preselect me with both her and the girls i meet and DHV as well as making her jealous, isn't it win win?

Well thanks to anyone who bothered to read that miniature book i just wrote, any advice is appreciated

Yeah man, it sounds like she's definitely interested, and you should pursue it. From the sounds of things she's doing exactly what you mentioned, "rationalizing her way out of a relationship". This sounds hard to work around, but in reality, it's incredibly simple. Remember, girls have been brought up with this Prince Charming mentality, they've all got fantasies where her knight in shining armor comes and sweeps her off her feet, you just need to make that happen. The trick is to make her feel like she just got caught up in the moment, so when you're ready to pull the trigger here (and make it soon) don't give her time to think, because then she'll rationalize her way out of it. It sounds like she just doesn't want to feel guilty for getting involved again real soon, so if she can think about it later and say to herself "I wasn't ready for a relationship, but I got so swept up in the moment that I had sex with him." then you're right on target. I like your plan so far, just a few comments on it that I'll break down by the way you wrote em:

1) AMOGing is good, just make sure you're actually the alpha male. A common mistake guys make is to go out and try to be the AMOG and end up being either a jocky asshole that everyone hates or they become the clown of the group. You don't want to be either one, so avoid that pothole.
2) Sexual framing is good, hang out in your/her bedroom more, lead the conversation more towards sex, girls love to talk about sex as much or more than guys do, you just need to get her comfortable talking to you about what she likes and doesn't like (if you use NLP at all, try to anchor those feelings so you can use them later).
3) Body language and confidence are PUA 101, so make sure that's on point, if you have any trouble here, read "Double Your Dating" by David DeAngelo, he's got some good stuff in there about it.
4) Kino ties into the sexual frame, if she's sitting on your lap like that, put your hand on her ass, be subtle about it, but NOT sneaky. Know what comes off as sneaky or creepy and AVOID AVOID AVOID. Chicks pick up on that WAY better than guys do, so keep that in mind. Otherwise, kino's pretty self explanatory.
5) Nothing to say here, sounds like you've got it on lock.
6) Don't worry about it, if you've got your kino/body language/sexual frame going on right, she'll be too preoccupied with her new feelings and how to deal with them to worry about yours. If it comes up it comes up, just remember honesty is the best policy.
7) Great idea, use those other girls as DHV, I wouldn't use her as a pivot if she's also a target, that'll get confusing and seems like it would crash and burn. If she's the target, then target her. She does seem like she knows you well enough to use as a pivot, but don't then try to PU on her, thats doable, but probably won't work for you if you're this new to the game, she'll think of herself as a slut afterword and that'll ruin a good thing you've got going on.

Any other questions feel free to let me know.

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-Breeze

Well feeling pretty shitty right now. I saw her just now, there was some light kino, hugging, playfully fighting with me for the laptop, but pretty much seems like her interest level has bombed since i last saw her a month ago, feeling like shit now. I did everything as well, wore a new shirt, ive lost a few pounds since then, was much more comfortable with my body language, managed to get some sexual framing in there but i still feel really bad, just like that spark we had has gone a bit, and i feel like i did a few months ago when i first started to like her, only her interest has gone down not going up. Argh feel like such an AFC now. Even my usual teasing wasn't really being that well received despite the fact she clearly had high energy levels.

Maybe i worked myself a bit much that day lol, she seems just as interested actually. Texted me randomly in a lecture telling me she missed me over the holidays, text me a few times asking me what i was doing, spent some time in her room to when she had work to do, which i know she takes very seriously and she chose to talk to me instead despite the fcat i know her essay needs to be in very soon, so i guess thats good.

What i really need advice on is how to subtly sexually frame, i usually am really crude around guys but not at all around girls(now no longer an afc i realize this was actually a bad idea, i used to think it would improve my game before i found the PUA community!), so if i start showing that side of me to her i think ill defiantly come on too strong and obvious, so does anyone have some good ideas/lines or whatever to be subtle yet sexual?

Keeping really solid eye contact, slowing everything you do down, talking about sexual things (you can use an opinion opener for that sort of thing, i.e. "Hey, what do you find sexiest about guys?"), obviously kino.

Remember that you aren't selling her YOU, you're selling her SEX. You can make her feel better than any other guy she's ever met, and you're simply offering her the chance to feel great. Keep that in mind the whole time.

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-Breeze

Yeah thanks breezey Well some progress was made today, everyone was in my room, i was bringing the major alpha male, making other guys do stuff for me with no resistance, anyways she starts lying down on my bed and basically spooning around me (altho i was sat up straight, hard to explain) and just generally reverse kino, grabbing my arm to use as a pillow, and then hugging my knee and using it as a pillow, and lots of other kino, talking shit about what we are going to do when we are married!. Problem is i was in a really tough situation, her ex, my friend, who emotional unstable and still isnt over her was in the room, and he was already giving me the evils, and if i had initiated any major kino he would of gone skitz, and any progress would be lost as he would just have a fat off argument with me. I'm so annoyed, i guess its good she initiated most of it, but at the same time i hope she isn't turned off by me not exactly diving into the kino. Anyways as everyone left she also ended up falling asleep in my room, unfortunately i had an exam the next day, which was another problem, so at 12 o'clock once i finished revising i had to wake her up and ask her to leave (she was fine with it). So annoying though that two opportunities screwed up by logistics!

p.s. she looked so cute when she was asleep ><

Any more advice on the whole sexual framing thing? cos its got to be so subtle i swear, and i haven't studied NLP so i don't know much about that stuff.

It sounds like you've got it covered man. It sounds like you don't need help with sexual framing, she's already into you if she's laying on your lap and is comfortable enough to fall asleep on your bed. You just need help with escalating. If you haven't read "Double Your Dating" by David DeAngelo, I'd highly recommend it. It's got a lot of good advice on escalation.

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-Breeze

Thanks again breezey, as for escalation i watched gamblers stealth attraction vids on you tube which gives me a lot to run with. Also made a bit of progress again today, she was sat on my bed and purposely put it arse into my feet/leg so they were rubbing as we were both laid down on the bed, which i guess is defo incidental class 3 on the vindicarlo ladder. A few things to note though, she is very reverse kino with a lot of guys, and she is very overt class 2 with another guy who's close to us both which she isn't with me, yet shes never incidental class 3 with him like she is me, what does this mean? She tends to be VERY high in the incidental class with me all the time, like brushing/leaning over/touching me in my room which has far enough space not to do that, yet she seems shy about some of the higher overt classes and rejects it a bit when ive tried to be overt class 3.

p.s. i got her to iron my shirt the other day with no resistance when i had nothing better to do lol.