Hi, I am new to this forum and after reading through the FAQ I still have an unanswered question that I would like to discuss. Should I neg an HB5 or 6 target even if she has better looking friends in her group? I am asking because I'm not sure how well this tactic would work if she is only too used to being ignored in favour of her better looking friends? Thanks

U only neg HB 8 or higher.

Or when the HB6-7 thinks she is a HB8+

Goodluck!

The important thing you need to remember is what SHE thinks of herself. There are plenty of girls i'd rate as 5,6,7 who see themselves as 8,9,10 and can therefore take a good neg!

However, if she sees herself as a 5 or 6 or possibly even lower, then you will probably get further with compliments, BUT i'd still use a neg, perhaps a light one (NOT about her looks). You might be better off using a body language, or behaviour neg. Get her to buy you a drink, perhaps look around the room when you talk to her.

Nothing that she would actively think "ouch!" to, but things that sub-consciously might spur her on a bit.

Only neg a target is she is being a bitch.

IF you see she is trying to impress her friends by being a bitch, neg her then talk to her friends.

IF she isnt being a bitch, why bother lowering her self esteem?

DHV if she is being cool, make her like you rather than hate you.

Hope this helps dude

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Neg as needed. Neging a girl based upon her looks won't do you any favors.

5s & 6s ain't HB

it might sound a bit disrespectful and funny but negging a HB to me is like you treat a dog.
Which means if she isn't nice you neg her. If she is you don't.
Like teaching a dog how to behave. I think this works. Because if you neg y girl that's completely nice to you and you neg her she will think you are a jerk and you lose her.

I've learned this the hard way...2 weekends in a row! (i'm blaming it half on the alcohol) ;P

no more..

Thanks Truffle. This is good advice as I was only considering MY rating of her looks and not HER OWN perception of how she looks. I guess I need to think outside the box a little more (so to speak) lol

I have to add something.

Actually why negging isn't my favorite thing to do is because I love women too much!

Many women half a lack of self-esteem even those modeling for magazine covers. Mostly it's about their looks and I totally do not want to neg them because of that. I mean I would neg if it was necessary but then for something she is wearing or having lipstick on her teeth or something like that. Never for her natural looks.

Glad you learn this, most guys have not it seems from reading the forums here. Gaming a girl based upon her looks will lower your chances of closing her and won't help you in the long run with girls in general because you be condition your self to treat girls based upon their looks.

You need a backbone. I am not saying to be mean to girls, but being a softy on them won't help you.

Well, at least I'm not the only who thought about similarities with dog training. I already have books from dog trainers on my "to read" list

Haha nice!

But seriously! There is a reward - punishment system involved.
If she behaves nice, reward her with a hug or something.
If she behaves rude, neg her!