In short, 90% of what circulates around these forums is pure mental masturbation bullshit. If you all want to truly understand how it all works in a simple and effective fashion, first go to this website and read the articles: http://howtogetwithagirl.com/blog/

Then google "60 years of challenge" and find a torrent on it (what I did).

I used to confuse myself with DHV, DLV, alpha male shit, negging, etc. Listen everyone, as 60 years has said, "The one who talks, is the one who qualifies." Let's all stop walking around like we're trying to sell a $10,000 paper clip. The reality is that a lot of people on here are stressed out, take shit personally, and never end up understanding why. I know this sounds like a shocking, offensive post, but for the past year I've suffered putting most of the bullshit that we know to work. What we have to do is look at it from a totally different point of view as I've listed above. If you're a beginner, you may not understand what those articles are saying because you have not had enough experience with various methods.