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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:25 pm 
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SO i Opened with a HB8 @ the bar. I used an opinion opener about my friend and his relationship, this worked well and got her talking for about 10 minutes. Then i transitioned but didnt have much to talk about in the attraction phase. She was not cooperative and wasnt talking too much, and she was not showing me any signs that she was attracted to me. after talking to her for about 15 minutes, i just gave up and walked away.

Is this standard? If a girl is not showing you signs of attraction after your opener, is that a sign to move on?? or do you tough it out and try to keep talking to her?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:29 pm 
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I would look for I.O.I in the first 3 minutes if not I would move away, fifteen minutes is too much at least that my opinion. there are alot of other girls. Ussualy that want im getting.


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You said you had her engaged and talking for the 1st.10 minutes or so.

What the hell happened after you transitioned?

It's obviously your mistake in C&B(crash & burning).

Whatever you transitioned with wasnt good.Simple as that.

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Wow, man. It sounds like you started off well but then it was like the gas tank went empty and you got stranded in the middle of nowhere. You said after the opener you guys talked for 10 minutes. Remember this, "The Game" is only the first 10-15 minutes after you open the set. That means that 15 minutes after the opener, you should very well be at the middle of A3 going into C1. If you can't get to that phase within that time, you're wasting time. Time is essential. It takes only 3 minutes to build attraction. That means that YOU HAVE A TIME LIMIT! You have exactly 3 minutes to display all of the correct characteristics that every woman finds attractive. If you don't, your time will run out. That means your value will be lower than hers and it's too late to bring it back up. What I do is, I have a checklist or "to do" list of things that should be done within those 3 minutes. You said you ran out of things to say... Remember this, it doesn't matter what you say, but that doesn't mean you can say anything. It means you can choose any of your verbal routines already hardwired in your head. You must have 4 to 5 openers and/or routines memorized as "safety nets" just in case you run out of things to say, that will be your material.


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@Orey-Great insight bro'-that's pick-up 101.

If 15 minutes has elapsed and the guy is not in comfort,he's really doing somethings wrong.

Im usually delivering all my attraction routines by the 1st.five minutes.

I usually have back up routines in the holster in case I run out of things to say(which rarely happens).

Anyway,good insights Orey.

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