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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:34 am 
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Now here is my background. I am a decent to good looking guy who was about 40 lbs overweight. ( ive since lost 30 lbs and now am hardly overweight)

About the girl: homely looking girl next door, but hotter than the average girl next door, but with a super cool social personality, smart and witty. hard to dislike this girl. Just ponytales her hair. but she does do her makeup nice and her face looks good. One thing about this situation is, obviously there are ALOT of guys at the casino, but they are all old and arent really as good looking as me. Despite that, she is friendly and has ALOT of guy friends, who constantly want to talk to her while she is playing. i feel bad for her because that has to be annoying i would think. She does have a boyfriend but its almost a non-factor as i will explain later.


I play poker @ a local casino. usually i was never worried about my appearance. Anyway there is a hottie who is my age playing there, we are both about 26/27/28 ish. Im not sure how old she is, im 26.

So anyway we play @ the same table for three straight nights, just by chance. Now this girl was so cute and skinny and such a hot bitch that i figured i had no chance. I totally cold shouldered her, on the first night i just played, listened to my mp3 player and didnt even talk to her. I watched a few other guys fail trying to be social with her, but she was generally friendly and social but a slight bitch(hot).

Second night we play together, i caught her staring @ me a few times by pretending to relax and look down @ the table and then quickly glance @ her. and yes a few times she was staring and looked away when i looked @ her. then we talked a little bit the second night.

Third night, i did really well.. Shes losing money, and moves to the empty seat next to me. I follow the three second rule and immediatly say hi and begin talking with her. immediatly we were laughing about myself complaining about how bad of a fold i just made. She suggested we gamble on the flops and bet on the color of each flop, which was alot of fun. she is a really cool girl. eventually she asks me my name, and i respond with "whos asking" lol further challenging her. her boyfriend was there that night, and he came over and right in front of him she was hitting me to get my attention, touching me in front of him. i was taken aback by this behaivor @ that time. looking back, i can see why the next night she would be so attracted to me.

So the fourth night, which was the next friday. i hit it out of the park. I really never preformed so well with such a hot chick as i did that night, on a social level. I show up, she sees me, does a double take and waves hi to me. I come over and talk to her. 30 mins later, she moves to my table. she loses and pot and is pissed, then about 30 mins later, i move into the empty seat next to her. i figured, if she was going to move next to me the prior weekend, i was going to take the initative this time and move next to her.

soon We were laughing, she was iniating touching by hitting me playfully and stuff. she went to take a bathroom break, we were getting along so well, the other guys @ the table asked if she was my girlfriend while she was gone. i had to say no. So when she gets back to the table, she is buying me drinks, we are drinking laughing having tons of fun. So then something happened that drives me fucking mad when i think about it. one of the guys ( loser with no chance) asks her if she has a boyfriend. She says yes to him, then leans into me and semi -whispers "what boyfriend". now when she said that it told me a few things

#1 She likes me and wants to fuck ( that was what i think it meant)
#2 She doenst give a shit about her boyfriend and is infact itching to cheat on him.

So when she told me that, i knew it was the greenlight. time goes by, and she claims she is going to move to another table. i say ok i will follow you. we both move to a new table. soon after we move, we are chatting and laughing again shortly. She moves next to me, the guy who was sitting next to her @ the time protests because he enjoyed her company, but she replied with "i want to sit next to my friend" and came back to sit next to me.

SO anyway, we grind out till 5 am in morning. I was waiting for her to leave and i was going to invite her to my place( since i have read the magic bullets book, i realize that may have been a bad move) But what actually happens is she plays till 5:15, and im so dead tired i have to leave. so i say bye to her, and she says see you next night and well do it again. I never had the chance to really tell her i like her or want her or invite her to my place, even though she greenlighted me to do so. that is and was frustrating. She is a hard person to pull away from the table.

So what happened next was a long string of loss of emotional momemtum.
I saw her the next night and we were friendly with each other but i failed to get her number or anything. we did not play @ the same table.

the next night, she goes with her BF to kansas for 10 days. she comes back. we are friendly when we see each other, but alot of momentum is lost. 2 weeks goes by, she goes to vegas for 2 weeks and more momentum is lost. @ this point, its almost dead and i may have fallen into the friend zone.

Now, we talk occasionally. she almost never comes to my table to talk to me, but i will go to her table atleast once a night.

I feel like i still have a chance. my gut tells me she likes me and is disapointed that i couldnt seal the deal sooner with her.
I first met her only 2.5 months ago so its been a while but not too long.

Here are my problems and how can i overcome them??

#1 i dont have her number. we are fairly good friends @ this point, and i could just ask her for it. ( if i could ever get her alone for a second)


#2 I live far away and she lives close. how can i get her back to my place.

My gameplan @ this point is to get her number, and then try to get her to come out with me for drinks sometime, and then try to get her back to my place.

ALL SUGGESTIONS WELCOME, CAN THIS SITUATION BE SALVAGED?? OR SHOULD I MOVE ON?

shes a hot bitch


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:24 am 
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Ill bump this one time. i guess no one gives a shit. fair enough


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:55 pm 
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very long lol... but i definitely feel your pain... i almost felt like that was me... excuse a few bad moves on your part.

at times we never realize that we should have taken the initiative and just do what we felt was right. we take so long to make a move and we end up losing what we wanted in the first place. i can't begin to tell you how many times that has happened to me.

she definitely liked you. but it's like you were afraid to show her that you were interested. of course she knew. but the alpha males does not hide his feelings. he boldly expresses it without remorse and without needing her approval.

the best thing to would have done is kino escalated, qualified her and then build some comfort(comfort was being bult as you guys played together though).

i think the best thing is to go and a play a game with her and escalated a lot! qualify her a bit and then take her number. she want's to give it to you, you're just afraid to ask.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:08 pm 
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Yeah thanks for the tips fly. Youre right, i was afraid to ask her. this particular failure to close is what motovated me to learn some of these techniques and is how i found this site.

when this happened, i didnt even know what qualification was, or how to do it! i still have not actually done it but atleast ive read about it now.

I should have been more alpha. Its hard though in front of a table full of guys. ALso, im not sure i will be able to play @ her table again because she moved up in stakes. but she plays the lower stakes too so it is possible.

so you think i should play it cool, look for an oppurtunity to escalate when i get the chance? so i should NOT just be like hey can i get youre num randomly? thanks for the answers


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:33 pm 
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you're a guy with options. don't hunt her down. let her come around and flirt with her, tell her she's fun and y'all should get a drink to continue the convo (set the date make sure it's within 48 hours. same day preferably). then that's time to get the number. you then continue to talk and leave shortly after.

she has to have a life other than the casino.

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