Quick about me: ex-wuss who never got female attention from high school to most of college. Been reading up on pick-up for several months now, doing much better, but still a lot to learn.

I've been friends with HB7 for a month or so now, and i've started gaming her. She's been receptive so far.

Im posting a text convo that i had with her earlier. Please critique. My text game is weak.

Me: This class is boring. im texting you to keep me awake
her: lol aww. what class?
me: you're not very good at keeping me awake. try harder.
her: BOOOOOBIES!
me: Boob? where?
her: im sure there are some in your class. I've also got some.
me: not much boobage in a biotech class. And the ones here are all nerdy Asian flat ones. And i know you do, i believe i've met them.
her: oh really? haha was it a good meeting?
me: not really we're only just acquantances. i'll make sure i get their names next time we meet
her: aww thats a shame. you need to be more productive!
me: ehh eventually, im in no hurry. are they really worth meeting? they seem shy (trying to show disinterest here)
her: they're apparently very nice to, or so i've been told.
me: really? well i might give them another shot. introduce me. ( mistake?)
her: i dunnnoooooooo
me: dunno what? ( weak. what would have been a better reply?)
her: not sure you want to meet them.
me: think so? well thats too bad.
her: im not sure. want to? (shit test?)
me: i dunno they didnt seem very receptive before. they probably wouldnt like me (trying to dodge a direct question/ show disinterest)
her: how do you know?
me: your'e right. i guess i dont know for sure.
her: you shouldnt assume

....i dont know what to reply to that.


My biggest weakness overall is texting and conversation. I feel like my conversations get boring a little too quick, and im not very good at making girls laugh. Im a very logically minded person, and I have the strong urge to just answer questions, and I stray from being creative. I, of course, have been working to reverse this. Are there any resources and books that might help? Routines that i've read up on have helped immensely, but are a little useless when you run out, and in a date setting.

Thanks

I consider texting to be my strong suit.

You: "really? well i might give them another shot. introduce me."

Revision: "Really? Well I'll give them another shot! You should introduce me."

What every single message needs is for every sentence to carry a weight to it. The first sentence here "Really?" is already weighted because it is a question. Your second sentence lacked weight but weight can be added with an exclamation point. Your last sentence was also weak. I added weight to it by including the word "you" so that the girl is referred to.

It sounds strange at first, but loading each of your messages with subtle things like this, causes a lot more feeling!

Also, notice that I got rid of the "i might" part. It's good to always refer to things as though they are absolutes. Try not to use "maybe," "might," "could be," or anything that alludes that there is an option to the matter.

As for the second message you ask about:

"dunno what?"

You're right. This is weak. I make it a rule to almost never send a message that is only a question. I also try to never end a message with a question. This way, I seem like I already know everything there is about the girl and convey the sense that she isn't important enough for me to wonder about her.

Revision: "Don't think you should? It's a great idea!"


Third sentence:

her: im not sure. want to? (shit test?)

This isn't a shit test. She's wondering if you're actually interested. A better response would have been:

"You should definitely introduce us. I'm sure we'd get along this time round!"

Notice how this message is weighted. The first sentence refers to her and uses the exact word of "definitely." The second sentence is actually weighted in a negative way by using the word "I'm," and referring to yourself. This is balanced out by the use of the exclamation point so that there is a neutral value, but it becomes positive with the use of an other exact word: "sure."


I really have to take the time some day to completely break down everything there is to my text game. Really, you have to look at each message as an equation and combine the mentality with your other skills and inner game.

Hope this helps!

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There is always something that could be said. Because of this, people forget that silence is also an option.

Thanks. Great advice. I can see how your revisions sound better. Can you give more examples on how to add 'weight' to a text? Also, do you know of any resources for text game?

I think I should change the phrasing I used. Let's say that every msg has value, and every sentence in a msg has value. The goal is to use certain values that convey and instill the presence or lack of feeling.

Lets start with a very neutral sentence:

"Let's hang out this weekend."

Things that could give this sentence a positive value would be an exclamation point, the use of the word "we" (implies that the two of you are a unit) instead of "Let's," and something that conveys this as an absolute like the word "should."

Positive revision:

"We should hang out this weekend!"

Positive values can also be achieved with the use of emoticons. Emoticons such as ; ) are also important to signify that you're joking. Personally, I try not to use anything other than ; ) :'(

Make sure to balance how you weight sentences in a positive message. You shouldn't use an exclamation, an emoticon, a referral to her, and an absolute statement all in the same sentence, or else you will come across as overbearing.

Instead, give the first sentence positive value by referring to her. Use the emoticon for the sentence that is most joking. Throw an exclamation point onto your most neutral statement (or you could turn a question (negative) into a positve by adding a exclamation point ?!)

If you wanted, we could also give this sentence a negative value.

negative revision:

"Want to hang out this weekend?"

Even though the chick has always had a choice in the matter, now we've admitted that the choice is there. This adds negative value. Making this a question also adds negative value.

Negative valued sentences aren't always a bad thing though! For example, after a string of positive messages a negative message stands out- also true when a negative sentence is within a mostly positive message. This concept should only be used with extremely negative values, though.

Extremely negative revision:

"If I'm not too busy, maybe I can make time to hang this weekend."

This refers to "I" multiple times, which is always negative in texting. It also lacks sureness by using the word "maybe." These things make this a negative statement, but what makes it a extremely negative statement is the tone of the message. It implies that the choice is up to you, that you might have better things to do than hang with the girl, and that you really don't care whether you do or not. The implementation of these final things ultimately have less to do w/ text game and more to do with inner game.

Some things to remember:

There is almost never anything wrong with positive messages.

Negative messages usually make you appear weak.

Neutral messages (neither negative nor positive) will make you seem boring, unless used rarely and in the presence of un-neutral messages (in this case they convey the sense that you are getting bored or that the girl has done something wrong).

Extremely negative messages are risky because they are overdramatic and should only be used once you understand both texting and normal conversation skills.


Summary:

The entire point of giving your sentences and messages value is to charge them with subtext. Every single sentence shouldn't just be saying something, but it should be piquing some subconscious interest and be conveying something more than what is said.




And to answer your question, no. The only sources of text game I've found are text openers. As soon as I have time, I'll go into even more detail and break down everything there is to my text game as a separate post.

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There is always something that could be said. Because of this, people forget that silence is also an option.

Excellent post, GreenRing! You should definitely write some kind of guide to text game, you really know your stuff.

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please do, i'll be looking forward to reading it, even that short post was pretty incredible as i have never seen anyone break it down like that.

I would say, "We should stop texting, I feel like I want to grab them." Huge sexual threat, builds a lot of tension. Are you gonna get her turned on or are you just gonna keep playing "the little game"?