Theoretical question for you guys -
After the initial stage where you meet a girl, when you go on a date, and you actually start talking and getting to know each other, sometimes there just isn't chemistry, Sometimes you just don't interest each other. You obviously still want to sleep with her, but there really is no connection between the two of you.
The question is this - Do you consider it a part where your pick up skills don't matter, its actually how you two get along, a situation that no matter how good your PU skills will be, still nothing would come out of it. Or do you consider it a situation in which a good PUA would still turn it to his favor.
In other words - do the PU techniques go on during the date, is it part of the "game", or once you got a date and you move from the initial stage, that's just a question if you two match?

the whole interaction process with a woman is a game. I have close female friends that I have to game sometimes, not to get them attracted but to get compliance. some girls are passive some need a way of communicating with them.

as for boring conversations, my friend who is a very natural always tells me that its good when the girl speaks. I add to that saying but if you don't like what she's talking about, change the subject.

A good conversation method is:

you:
Ask question
her: answer
make statement
ask question
her: answer
make short statement
ask question
her: answer
make short statement

etc, it makes a nice flow for me, I sit back and listen (or pretend to)

you don't wanna hear her talk emotional shit. thats not for your ear to be raped with.

also, what Ive noticed about female conversations (female-female), unlike guys, we change the subject every three sentences eitherway, girls keep talking about the same subject for a long period. so you wanna stay on the same subject for a long time (coz she's not finished yet, let her have it)

as for boring conversations, yea, some girls are boring, but u can choose your topic...for me, when girls talk boring stuff, i let them talk even more (keep asking more questions about the topic) but i know im not interested...i already like her!!! its the immature ones that turn me off! some puas here may not agree to this...

conversation skill is easy and big. i suggest u talk to female friends u already know and try the method above....but remember, to add DHV statements on a sly between asking questions

good luck

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Inner game is ALL you need, then create your own routine

If you can't interact with girls without using routines, your gonna have issues. Your gonna run out somewhere.

I would highly suggest sarging without openers and routines to learn how to interact. Once you get this down, go back to using routines.