Hi everyone,

I am new here, been browsing for a while. Thought I would make my first post.

How much eye contact do you think is enough. The two extremes are:
- not making eye contact at all until the moment you make the move (like Vince Vaughn in Swingers)
- Staring at the girl and not backing down. Sort of alpha staring them.

Whats you're opinion on the eye contact spectrum in Club/Bar scene?

General principle: you can never have enough eye contact. Disclaimer: it depends on the girl, and you need a curious & confident one for extensive eye contact. When I started, I ignored all the teachings about eye contact, ran my game, and got results. But as I got better, I incorporated eye contact into my game, and it's become my single strongest asset.

Of course you can run game successfully without making eye contact before the approach. But if you have a strong frame and solid inner game, you can communicate any range of emotions through your eyes--more than you can consciously keep track of. I've spotted a girl in a club, stared her down for a song from about 20 feet away, and eventually just grabbed her. All I had to do from there was maintain body language and build more sexual tension. Hook, line, and sinker with nothing but my eyes (okay, maybe I dance like a young god, and she knew to appreciate it b/c she's Brazilian, but still).

haha good stuff. Nice one man, thought so.

But eye contact doesn't mean staring into her eyes non-stop, unblinkingly, trying to open your eyes as wide as possible

That would just make you come across as some kind of a psycho stalker or mass murderer. Just keep your face and eyes relaxed and when you're having a conversation with her, occasionally glance at her ear, nose or mouth every now and then. DO NOT LOOK BELOW THE NECKLINE! A lot of girls think it's slimy when a guy just keeps staring at their eyes non-stop and most girls hate it when a guy's obviously checking out her breasts...

I have a perfect answer for this one, but I did not learn it or come up with it. Instead an older friend in high school taught me it.

1. If you turn to look at a girl, and she turns away: she was noticing you. She may have interest in you, but may not.

2. If you turn to look at a girl, and she smiles before she looks away: she was noticing you and has interest in you.

Here is the best part:

3. If you turn to look at a girl and she just keeps staring at you there are one of two possibilities.
a. She is completely in infatuated with you.
b. You have something like a booger sticking out.