Yesterday I went to a book's shop and to my full surprise i saw "the game" by neil strauss placed with all the other books...it was really hard not to notice...not to mention all the sudden commercials in the internet:"success with women"
My question:
What are you going to do if you run an opener for example and the woman in front of you tells you that she knows you are using PUA materials
,what are you going to do then?
Is any of you been into such situations in which the women knew you are using PUA materials?

ps: In my place its quite rare to come across with such books....

I know what you mean man. Its becomming waaay to commercial imo. What to do about it? Nothing.

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play it off as a joke. Hopefully if a girl knows enough about the game, she'll realize that it benefits men and women alike. I saw a video of a girl who found out her boyfriend is a PUA and enjoyed that he gained confidence because of it.

In dealing with women who think routines are a bad thing, it's worth working on natural game to become more charismatic without patterns that most people would notice.

If they are too put off by the first attempt: NEXT

Thoughts?

play it off as a joke. Hopefully if a girl knows enough about the game, she'll realize that it benefits men and women alike. I saw a video of a girl who found out her boyfriend is a PUA and enjoyed that he gained confidence because of it.

In dealing with women who think routines are a bad thing, it's worth working on natural game to become more charismatic without patterns that most people would notice.

If they are too put off by the first attempt: NEXT

Thoughts?

I must agree with this here...there are now guys out there that want to make money with their knowledge...just last year hundreds of millions of dollars was made off of informational products...pickup artistry is becoming a business to an extent with those that know their content and want to sell it for profits.

Think of this...Neil Strauss and his coaching company made HALF A MILLION DOLLARS the first week one of his coaching programs were released. That right there is a lot of money.

What to do when a female knows you're doing something related to pickup artistry?...

EMBRACE IT FELLAS! It's who you are, it's what you know, it's what you do! DO NOT CHANGE THAT! This goes back to "the game" we are all playing...some are better than others but that doesn't matter.

It should be the female having to qualify to you.
It should be the female having to want you more.
It should be the female who gains pleasure from you, IF YOU WANT HER TO.
It should be the female that......has to work for you. Don't change the tides around if she senses you're a pickup artist in training...

I have to admit...mystery on VH1 ...really messed things up for the community as a whole...if you aren't going to adapt to changes around you!

That is what an alpha male is all about...adapt to your enviroment, come up with your own things to do/say.

You know what makes a guru, from a student? A GURU/MASTER makes his own material...a student uses what he's given....a guru/master UNDERSTANDS how this all works...a student only understands what he is tought to understand.

That right there guys is KEY. It should not matter that the world knows pickup artists like myself, or bob down the street, or x or y z EXIST...you should all be adapting! Work with your enviroment, don't surpress it. EMBRACE that you know how to play the game, that girl know you know how to play it, show it to her, show her how hot you can make her for you...teach them...

She calls you a pickup artist...you call her a picky women. She calls you fat, you tell her to lower her standards a little, because that is what you just did for her in regards to you. She calls you x you make her Y.

Adaptivity gentlemen, adaptivity is what will set the masters apart from the students, the guys that can get away telling chicks they are pickup artists compared to the guys that freak out when the girl says they sense something.

Come up with your own methods...learn why something works and create something SOLELY for yourself. Then, and I mean ONLY then, will it TRULY NOT MATTER what the girls know...because as long as you don't teach, ONE SECRET you created ON YOUR OWN...you will always get that girl...because you based it on a system, a proven system.

Think about that there for a moment.

She calls me a pickup artists, or senses something...who cares...just switch to one of your own 100% ORIGINAL OUT OF YOUR OWN HEAD tactics and you'll get the girl, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT!

Wish you all luck, because if you can't adapt, or come up with something from scratch, just for yourself to know and use...you my friends shall be called a player and shall crash and burn.

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the only thing a woman could spot is obviously canned and lamely delivered routines.

other than that, what is she going to "spot"?

- confidence
- competence
- friendliness
- humor
- attractive body language

see my point? you can't teach women to "look out" for pickup artists,

anymore than you could tell the general public BEWARE OF NICE PEOPLE.

in a season or two all this shit will fade and something else will be all the rage, and we'll all still be getting pussy like madmen. right?

There are plenty of people who without ever having read the game, are pulling women left right and center. It might be commercial, but many dismiss it, and most things we do in PUA are natural anyway. Its not one girl might accuse you in a night club of being a "pick-up artist" if you approach. If she does, you might as well use Adam Lyon's negative attraction technique.

Lol the whole point of a pua, is to become a natural.

When you are a natural you dont need lines.

PUA material is just for beginners.

Btw i wouldnt think that women would read the game, its more of a guys book.


And yeah id play it as a joke, or even reverse it as if shes a pua etc...

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I once did the 'who lies more' opener on this girl. (gotta love that old stuff)

It went down like this:

me "hey, quick question, who lies more, men or women?"
her: "ARE YOU A PICK UP ARTIST?" (in a 'HA! gotcha'-way)
me: "Am I a what?"
her: "a pick up artist, are you?'
me: "what's that? I don't even own a pick up truck"
her: "nooooo, they hit on girls with lines, I read about them..."
me: "sounds interesting, tell me more" ~sits down next to her~

strongest frame wins, bro
And it got me a nice little 'in'

Been into pick up for about 2 years. At first I got called out on pick up lines even though they were just made up by me.

Thing is, which practice you will become really smooth and you will develop your own style. It takes time, dedication, and a lots screwing up.

I accidentally left a copy of the Mystery Method on my bed a long time ago, had a girl over. Came back in the room, she was reading it. We talked about it for about 3 minutes, then had sex. No big deal man !

There was something about this written in the Game itself. I dunno, i cant find it rite now, but if someone remembers please post it here

hehehe. great stuff!

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Here is what is going to die , and the quicker the better.

PUA and Game as labels must die.

Neil Strauss has already abandoned all pretext of being in "the Game" and is diversifying himself with other subjects for his books. There will never be a "Game II electric boogaloo" because he is too smart for that.

"Seduction Community" is a notch better because it implies romance, which women value.

The best is taken already by RSD, "Real Social Dynamics".

it's not like PUA is a super-duper-secret treasure map that leads to a pot of gold hidden somewhere.

there is no secret.

it's about improving yourself and learning how to be in tune with your inner-confident man and moving through the world without fear.

what is the "secret"?

i guess i don't get it.