I'm at a point where I have to get some serious training. Mystery, of the Venusian Arts offers 1 on 1 training with himself or his top members. I'm intending on going down to train with 'LoveDrop', however, there is a discount if other people are a part of the session. Here's some more information:

http://www.venusianarts.com/why-arent-w ... your-city/

I'm interested in going down some time in April/May. If anyone else is interested in meeting down there to get 1 on 1 training with the best then this would be a great opportunity.

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i am of the mind that one-on-one training can be very harmful.

first of all, you will be sarging with someone who you likely will never surpass in skill level (that's gotta be a confidence hit right there)

second of all, it implies that some of their magic will rub off on you (when we all know it's about taking the basics, going out, and learning through trial-and-error to build your own style. not somebody else's)

third, i just can't see spending a bunch of money to watch somebody in action. it's no different from watching on video, other than it costs twenty times as much as a comprehensive set that you can refer back to over and over again for reference.

my two cents.

I think the main point surrounding 1 on 1 focus is the fact that it's 1 on 1. The teachers will be able to see exactly what you're doing right and wrong. I can't think of any other way to get really good rather then personal lessons from a professional.

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practice?


i understand, and i'm not knocking you, i admire your drive to get good, i just don't necessarily agree that it would work for me.

please delete this, the board made a double post.

You could say the same thing, Mac, about dancing or any other skill. The 1 on 1 personal attention is unmatched. I teach professional dancing. Someone can practice all they want, but if they practice the WRONG thing, they will only become worse. I have seen this time and time again. "Practice ONLY makes perfect" if you are practicing the right thing. It would be great have Mystery in my ear telling me what I did wrong right then and there...that is why on the show one of the prizes was the ear piece with him on the other side...

The PROBLEM, however, is the same reason why I ended up leaving a dance studio...THE PRICE IS RIDICULOUS! To charge someone that much is NOT worth it! They wanted to charge people 80$ and hour and it wasn't even an hour, it was 45 minutes, with them taking the last 15 minutes to SELL you more lessons. I left...

I now charge HALF that for a private FULL HOUR lesson and I think it is fair.

The Game prices for these seminars are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY over priced. If they charge 500-1000 for a weekend...maybe I would consider it, but 4k is way over priced!

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The price is way high, however, they are the best. Or atleast in the top 10 best PUA's in the world, are they not?

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If you want to get 1 on 1 training fine, but dont waste money learning MM crap.

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How is the Venusian Arts crap?

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Mystery Method is filled with limiting and unhealthy beliefs and in addition to that, its also made up of unefficent ways to accomplish the goal of fucking hot women.

There are much HEALTHIER. QUICKER, FASTER, more EFFICIENT, and all out BETTER "methods" around now.

To name a few i suggest:

Real Social Dynamics (RSD)
60YearsOfChallenge
Vin DiCarlo (NOT his Pandoras Box stuff)
Rob Judge

1 on 1 training with those guys is not only cheaper, but will yield you much better results.

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is it cheaper? I see some bootcamps that will have dozens of people and are thousands of dollars also. What an extra 20% if you could learn, from arguably the greatest PUA of all time?

How is Mystery filled with unhealthy stuff? His method is probably the safest and guaranteed way of bagging a chick. Hence, why I got the finest women using his method. 60YOC is whack. It's ok for night game, but you're making a bold move at first. Plenty of times the girl will walk away, you have not established any value for yourself, and your going in for the kill. Very rarely will the girl want to fuck you. I know it's a filtering process of getting the girls that wants some sex or w/e... but that's a very small percent of women. I've read some of Vin DiCarlo stuff, it's dope. (Just read his concepts, I'm def going to be reading more) The rest I dunno.

Wtf is this bullshit? MM being bad? Yeah RIGHT

So tell me this, why is it that the guys doing MM and other structures similar to MM have the BEST results in this game? Guys like Mystery, Mathador, Braddock, Future etc will outgame ALL of the rest, 60yearsofchallange doesnt stand a chanse agains Mystery. Mystery did fucking teach tyler durden. And seriously, do u really think "Rob Judge" is better at getting girls than mathador? lol

RSD's gotta be the biggest joke ever, just check out their forum, now thats CULT at its essence, the fun thing? The guys are just become more creep and weird by studying their methods, social uncalibrated guys running around the club rationalisation blowouts like "it doesnt matter!!!! Ive approached 100 girls this night, they all hated me but i dont give a fuck!! yeaah!"