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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:21 am 
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ok these girls live in the apartment above me. i met them because there toilet over flowed nd leaked into my bathroom(it was like a down poor)

when the down poor happened i when up stair (before i met them) to tell them to stop what ever their doing because its basically raining in our bathroom. i told the girl that nd she was like omg the toilet like blew up. she let me in to see it. in the bathroom there was a girl standing on the bathtub with a plunger attacking the toliet.

i threw a neg(probably the only game i did) "Jesus wat did u eat" we laugh and joked a little between waiting for the maintenance guy. he came and as i was leaving they asked my name(which i think is an ioi)

so now i see them all the time they smile and we exchange greeting but it never goes past that........what should i do about this?

im new to pua and dont have a real big social circle


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hey man. i'm liking what you've done so far and the neg is very good. now you need to escalate it more. but as there are two of them, you're probably gonna need a wingman if you want to isolate one of them. so as you're gaming the 2 girls, demonstrate your friend high value by telling them one or 2 of his accomplishments so that when they meet him, you and your wingman can choose who is gonna go for which chick.

here are some of my notes about attraction, building rapport and number closing.

women like men who are observant and situational. notice things about ur target, what she is wear (clothes, jewelry etc). so if u notice something about her (do not comment on how beautiful she is) tell her about it e.g. u notice her bracelet, when talking to her, take hold of her wrist gently and say "wow this is an interesting bracelet, whats the story behind it?", there's always a background story behind women\s accessories. be situational about the environment you are in, whats happening, what do you see, make a statement about it or ask her opinion on it. being situational is much better than scripted material.

here are some of my other posts about building attraction and rapport with a girl.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point.

and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want.

another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages.

after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude ;-)


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:01 pm 
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thanx this really helped....i have a wing man (my roommate) who came into contact with them during the incident...but hes still stuck with the hole social anxiety thing im afraid he might jam it up... do u know any good ways to raise his moral?

also i notice one of the girls has a tattoo should i comment on it....im not sure because it is on her chest slightly above her breast would that indicate that i was looking at her breast?


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just tell him to relax and dont give a shit about what the girls think. but because you opened the set, you can boost his moral by using an accomplishment introduction - meaning you tell the girls about one or 2 of your friends greatest strengths so that you demonstrate high value for him to the girls. so that when your friend meets the girls, they can ask him about his strengths so that he can talk about them passionately so that he can be more relaxed and able to continue working his girl. btw show him my previous post so that he can see how easy it is.

for the tattoo part, you can mention it, shows that your observant but i would not portray that quality in that way in this case. after you have created enough attraction you can induce a sexual spike which is a form of verbal escalation instead of the physical kino escalation. in this situation, when you are having a conversation, stop, look at her breasts. check them out blatantly. when she asks "what are you doing?" or calls you out for it, put your finger up to signal 'wait', then look up and say "OK, carry on". It's very funny and other afcs are not confident enough to do this.

Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude ;-)


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thanx dude u helped alot


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Good advice Mickey.

Another suggestion would be to use a very subtle, yet light hearted neg.

Next time to see her, say something like:

You: "You know, every time I am in my bathroom and here any noise above me, I duck and cover. You have totally screwed me up. I can't even take a long hot shower now without looking to see if water is permeating the room."

Her: Lauhgs. "Very funny, it is all fine now."

You: "How come you couldn't flood a delicious smelling meal through the floor so I could not only eat it, but have that on my mind instead."

She will laugh again.

Her: "I am not even a good cook."
You: "Well I would love to find out, not to mention its the least you could do after all you have put me through."

Acts as a neg. At this point if she presses about not being a good cook the you can say something like "Well I know many restaurants you could take me to, and they know how to cook just fine."

You will have to use cold reading and your best situational read to determine how to take it from there and close. You can get her number, arrange a night (the better idea). Don't leave without some form of certainty.

Good luck!

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thats a good idea...well i just saw the girl(she ioi me the most) but i was in a bad mood becuse of some personal suff....she was coming out of her apartment as i was going in...she was telling me she has dogs that there yaping(u could hear them) and i said oh i wont tell (meaning the landlord) this is as as im walk passed her i never stoped i just went into my house.......also her mom was there (awkward for me apparently not her)

so basicly i iod her... when she ioi.......my roommate said im driving crazy in a bad way she gonna give up...

i have this problem alot that i dont have the drive to make the effort its hard to pump me up(well some family suff was bothering me this time i think it was reasonable) i have no anxiety about talking to people its just finding interest in people....im anit social...any tips on that?


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The only way to get past that is to force yourself into the situation. Some call it situational therapy. By avoiding the situations you make them worse. Fact is, you do want to get a date, or some romance from your neighbor or you would not have posted about it. You can't allow your outside issues to take over your mind. Your mind is the strongest party of your body, but can also be the weakest. Next time you see her, DO my routine, or one that you know will work. I can promise you it will work. The minute you feel that sense of accomplishment and confidence, you will never be the same. It comes down to just getting this first one down!

I would even suggest knocking on her door, asking for her, and the doing the routine. This is a good AM move and shows you are not afraid.

Best of luck to you bud!

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Hey, I'm the roomate he was talking about. I haven't had the same chances to talk to the girls that my roomate did. In fact, I didn't have any other than when their toilet exploded. I think it would seem too try-hard if I just randomly knocked on their door and started talking to them. When I run into them I'm going to try the routine you advised. I'm usually good at push/pull, but I do have some approach anxiety.


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