Hey all,

I have been checking out some of the topics in this forum. Some of you seem to be really successful with PU's. Now, I cannot say I'm bad at it, but when I see some of you kissing about 20 girls on a night or walking out a supermarket with 4 telephone numbers, I am still a rookie (on good nights I kiss about 3 girls).
I always wondered how people were able to hook up with 20 girls a night. I have -never- seen anyone doing that in my entire life, not even close to that. I'm from the Netherlands and recently I have met a couple of UK girls and they seem to be much easier. When I asked a friend of me who studies in Manchester now, he admits UK girls are easier.

Now what I am wondering, is there anyone out here who is very succesful in the Netherlands (and meets the standards I described above), or at least has experience with Dutch [i]and[/i] UK/US girls.

I don't do direct approaches in day games, most girls just don't seem to appreciate it and I think it'd come off rather desperate here. On top of that, I live in a relatively small city so after donig a few pickups at the mall, I'd run into the same people again

So, anyone knows if there are really extreme differences between them? I am going to study in the UK next year, so I'm curious though ^^

Thanks in advance.

I'm going to beat Blondguy to that one I think 8) but all of the above are limiting beliefs. Try it out before you knock it. Heck I would advise you to go on a weekend trip to a big city (so you woudn't have the "small city" excuse) and try it out. See how it works.

As for the results, yeah, some will get more some won't. Does that really matter to you? Progress according to your scale. Are you improving ? Yes, keep on doing what you are doing. Aer you stallling? Then change it up.

So you want to be able to make 20 closes a night? Is that going to make you feel better? Is that what you really want?

Anyhow, someone will be able to comment more on the Dutch vs UK or maybe give you some more info you wanted on this, but don't be fooled by counting success by the amount of kisses you get in a night.

Cheers!

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I am going to Amsterdam next weekend. I'll try it there.
It's improving a little, but in my opinion there are still a lot of things I have to work on.
Well, it is one way to measure it I think? How do you measure it then, besides sleeping with a girl. Though I must admit it's more of a combo thing, the amount and how she's looking.
I don't know if 20 closes would make me feel better, I just wonder how they do it, because from here, I have no clue how to pull something like that off.

I think your whole focus is wrong. First off, your success or failure at PU should not affect your inner game. Nor should PUA fill out your life. So when you're comparing your stats to those of other PUAs, you're trying to impress others or yourself. Neither is healthy. Ask yourself what you want from PUA and why. It can't be to kiss 20 girls in one night--you'll get bored kissing during that one night.

So my advice, forget about numbers, forget about the HB scale. If you see a girl you like, go talk to her and try to get as far as you want to get with her; KC, FC, LTR, whatever. When I started, I was obsessed with kissing and fucking as many girls as possible, because that would make me cool, right? False! I've since learned that while I love women, I really don't need them. I certainly don't need a certain number of them. So go out, take what you actually want, leave what you don't.

This whole way of thinking "In my country it doesn't go like that" is such a limiting belief, it's fucking ridiculous.

When I was in Finland I've had guys coming to me in clubs and saying "You can't do that here. Girls here are different than you're used to." And I'd be still making out with those"different" girls.

Work with what you've got. And know that it's not easier for guys in England or where ever. We are all in this together, but we have to face our fears alone. No one will do that for you. And when you start to enjoy facing your fears, nothing will stop you.

good luck!

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