Friends. I sit here at my computer. it is 9:35 pm

the last time i communicated her was at 8:40 pm. I said have you picked out the movies yet? she said no, just getting my kids to bed (many lols and ha ha's w/ this girl)

I talked to her 3 times on the phone today. Flirting, teasing, joking... confirmed tonight movie night at my place.

FRIENDS THE PROBLEM IS ME. WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING.

our plans were for 9:00. What can I do.

WHATS SCARY IS THAT I CAN'T FIND OTHER PUAS WHO ARE DEALING WITH THIS FREQUENTLY. I'm sick of it.. They just don't text. they never take the plans seriously.

Help! WHY IS NO ONE ELSE DEALING WITH FLAKY GIRLS. THESE GIRLS OFTEN MAKE PLANS WITH ME.. NO JOKE! AND THAN JUST DON'T SHOW. I PUT ABSOLUTLEY NO PREASURE ON THIS GIRL. NONE! WAS AS CHILL AS THEY COME AND SHE COMMITTED TODAY AND CONFIRMED SHE IS DEFINATELY COMING. 9:35 ROLLS AROUND NOT TEXT NO CALL NO RETURNING MY CALLS. NOTHING!

shes not worth your time, bottomline!

you dont need to deal with flakey women.

Forget it bro.. You could just be part of her emotional spank bank( just so she feels wanted).. Move on, she has kids; she's all washed up anyway.

I still haven't figured out why women flake by ignoring. An excuse would he more polite an save a lot of wasted time, but women aren't logical now are they ?

Peace her

Lata

first mistake. caring.

you do not need flakey girls, in fact you can even flake yourself to show your higher value. mind you may not work all the time but when it does it makes up for it.

I would of not called if she didn't show up just do your regular routine as if nothing happened, watch another movie. don't text/talk to her for a few days and see if she even noticed.

when/if she does respond to you another day, make her sweat then just say its okay I actually ended up going out with friends that night I was going to text you to reschedule our movie night, but I figured since you didn't say you were coming something must of come up.

you really have to drill it into your head that one girl does not make up the world, set up a support system for yourself. go to plan b invite a different girl over or have a girl that you have on the side when things get rough just to get you by and to occupy your mind from the original girl.

Thanks for your encouragement guys. I really appreciate it.

A lil update. she just called apologized several times and said she fell asleep with her daughter on the couch and is now on her way. I've had this happen alot but.. I told her if she comes over tonight I might be willing to overlook this.. which is actually what she kind of offered and I accepted, barely.. anyway. she's on her way. I'll fill you all in how it went..

logical, no. but I certainly appreciate everyones support.

Good news men, but be careful. I can't stand flakey women. Some are just like that, they can't respect schedule or apologize. It's a very bad sign. One time ok... Two... tree... fuck it...

I heard a good advice that I try to apply, when you start dating, make her understand that you know what you want and don't want from a women. Tell her some qualities that you are looking for, then add that you have standard and don't tolerate flake, it's a big turn off and disrespectful. If she can't respect that, tell her that it's ok, you can still be friend.
If she do it one time and apologize, tell her ok, I'll make up my mind by seeing how you make it up. Two times in less than a month, it's very bad, u better leave, adios. Some are good, they always have excuses. The true way to see thru manipulation is to watch carefully what they DO and NOT what they say.

My time is precious, I'm busy. If I spend energy to do something fun with a women, she has to respect that. And we'll have a blast.

Fool ms once the jokes on you

Fool me twice the jokes on me

Fool me 3 times an I'm buying a helmet

^_^ You should of said no tho, you seem as if you have nothing better to do but wait on her everynight. Major DLV.. If I were you I would ignore her today just as she's done to you in the past. And she won't flake the next time. However I seriously doubt you have the emotional strength to do this; so learn the hard way.

Nevertheless I hope she shows

surprisingly she showed. she was really sincere about falling asleep and apologized several times, even bought me a drink at the store.... but guys THE ADVICE YOU GAVE IS STILL VERY EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME. I've had flaking experiences before and you're helping me understand it and now how to deal with it. I wan to be prepared in the future. Now I have some more ideas.

Even though she fell asleep she still didn't respect the time enough to make sure that didn't happen. this one time she was not lying (i guess she has a night job) but many women do lie or just flake.

awesome!

glad to hear things are cool.... but dont narrow your view, keep your options open, and keep your eyes open WIDE!

add another one to your harem. lol

lol,,isnt that manipulating? like as if it was never about her,,it was her 'shit'

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im not sure if i understand this completely, however, i think theres some accuracy here. i have dated people with kids, and theres alot of drama/baggage/shit there to deal with. from personal experience, a woman, with a kid or kids will often have their crap together in some form or another. if she really liked you, in the end she would have made it a point to txt or get in touch with you in some way so as to not loose the potential of being with you. if she didnt reach out to you, shes not worth your time.

IMHO, from my own personal observations. women with kids realize that their already one foot in the grave. they realize that their getting older and that most men wont have anything to do with a woman whos "all used up" as it were. so, if your showing interest, knowing full well shes got kids and her life is mapped out for her in some ways, she SHOULD know that thats something to hold on to.


bottom line, as people are saying. shes not worth it, move on to bigger and better things.

Just read the entire thread... And just realised you GOT the result.


In fact, I remember replying to a previous thread why-do-girls-set-dates-w-me-and-then-st ... highlight= you started where I told you to fill in the blanks to prevent flaking... Seems like you're doing this... And you're getting the returns... Good stuff.

Now here's the problem...
Wait this girl showed up, and you're still pissed off???

I know you say you're not putting any pressure on these girls, and you probably think you're not... But look at what you've just written above. All in CAPS, you're soo FUCKING frustrated... If a random internet stranger can pick this out, what do you think these girls are thinking??

Yes she showed... Good, stop thinking the whole world is against you. It's not... Calm down, and run with it... When you realise this, that the problem ISN'T them, it may just in fact be you and your reactions, this is when you'll reach the next stage in your journey... good luck.

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i dont know about the OP, but i took quite a bit from this.... thankyou!

Thank you tweeby. It is a big deal to me that she showed. It's a great achievement. you're absolutely right. and the phone calls have helped me. you'll notice I did put what you said in the last thread into action. I started calling them. i also flirted with her and worked to be more flirtatious as apposed to pressuring.. but as you say I might still have quite a bit of residual pressure that comes off... lol working on it

There was a girl that had stood me up that caused me to write the thread I did before this one. I deleted that girls number but contacted her online where I originally had met her. I confronted her and asked her why she didn't show or call or text that night and just ignored me from that point on.. she said she was definitely attracted to me but felt I might just want her for a one night stand or sex..

well I'd like her to want to have sex with me enough that it wouldn't sound so bad but I'm not in the best shape so being the edgy fit guy they might want sex for quickly should take some time.. i still have to figure that out...

I can see and am starting to realize that these girls fear the one night stand thing quite a bit. this is a beginner realization for me but I've still got quite a bit to learn.

well, they dont want to come accross as slutty, or easy. so, you need to tailor your game to get around that.

check the forums, theres lots of god advice on how to side step this shit-test.