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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:07 am 
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So an update on the girl in this thread. It's really long so you don't have to read it. I just want to know if a couple of things I saw tonight were IOIs.

I was at her work (Subway) tonight and she was on break so I sat down at the booth she was sitting and we talked for about 10-15 minutes. During the conversation, I think I got a couple of IOIs, but I'm not totally sure.

I did the "you've got something in your hair" line on her and I told her I would get it for her. I reached across and touched her hair and she turned really red. Her expression was positive and she didn't pull back or anything. Is blushing at something like this an IOI? Also, when I said "that'll be $10 dollars," she threw this napkin she was playing with at me.

Also, she mentioned she had been sick all week and was coughing a little bit. One time, I told her that if she got me sick, it would totally be her fault and she started laughing/coughing and blushing again. Again, can I take this as an IOI?

This might be obvious to some people, but I also ask because during the conversation, I asked her a number of questions trying to get to know her, but she didn't ask me a lot. I think she only asked me "why are you trying to lose body fat?" because I told her earlier in the conversation that I was working on that. She also asked me where I live, but it was just a really quick question. After 10-15 minutes, she said she was gonna go get her jacket and go out for a smoke. She went back to get her jacket, I got up and started texting my friend, and she comes out and brings me my stuff that I left on the table and says her boss won't let her go out to smoke since she had already used up her break time. So we said goodbye and I left.

Overall, I think it went well, but this girl is really friendly and really sweet so I don't know if she's attracted or not. Next time, I'm going to ask her to go out on a date with me since I feel that I've built enough comfort. Any insight on this though? Things I should've/shouldn't have done? Things I should/should not do next time?[/url]


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:37 am 
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yes by the sounds of it they were IOI's...

Things you could have done better:

*Dont ask so many questions about her... it shows wayyyyy too much interest... and if she doesnt ask questions to get to know you then why should you ask them to get to know her??? its like you were trying too hard to build rapport with her... you must let it flow naturally

*Dont give your information away so easily... make her work for it... use the information she wants to know about you as a 'reward' for doing what you want her to do... i.e Hoop theory...

thats about all i can give you from the information you have given...

and dont ask her out on a date... you need to make her want to get to know you still... she basically only knows where you live right?? do you think thats enough information for her to want to get to know you? i dont think so...
the word "date" comes with this hidden meaning behind it... personally i dont tell any girl i want to go out on a date with her... unless... i've ALREADY slept with her... otherwise when you're out on this "date" there is an awkward vibe between you two... its like theres tension between you two because you both want to impress each other... and at the end of the night if you havent kino plowed the whole time then she'll feel awkward kissing you goodbye...
so make it seem spontaneous when you tell her you're going somewhere to get something to eat and that she should come...
i dont even go on dates any more! i hate the feeling of them lol... unless like i said before i've already slept with them... and then when i do take them out... its not a date... its just because im fucking hungry and feel like having a nicely cooked meal...

play a little hard to get... look up the hoop theory if you dont know how to seem like you're hard to get... works wonders :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:56 am 
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Assume attraction.

Don't wonder if something is an IOI, ASSUME it's an IOI.

Don't ask yourself if she is trying to encourage you to game her, ASSUME she is.

If you start wondering "was that an IOI?" you drown yourself in ego-assuaging bullshit and begin to over-analyze things. Eventually this leads to you rationalizing that you shouldn't escalate or attempt a close. Always presuppose attraction, have irrational confidence.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:13 am 
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Savlon, thanks man. That was really helpful. I was just thinking I would invite her to dinner with my me and my friends; not an actual 1 on 1 date. Like, "hey, my friends and I are going to this really good Thai place this Saturday, you should tag along." My group of friends usually hit up different restaurants in San Francisco so I would just ask her to come too. Hopefully that's what you meant by not asking her on an actual date. I'll look up hoop theory since I actually don't understand how to get her to ask me questions if she's already not asking much.


Hakuna. Yeah, I'm just confused at her apparent IOIs when to me, she doesn't seem interested due to the lack of questions. Also, I don't really want to assume every girl is attracted to me since I prefer to gauge how the conversation is going. You're right in that it may lead to over analyzing the situation though.


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