ok a friend of a friend started talking to me on FB. we have been on two dates now and she is awsome. she is easily a HB7. she keeps txting and IM ing me. she says she thinks im great, im her world, e.c.t. shes gorgeous and funny but the thing is she has never done anything with a guy before, never had a BF. she had to have major surgery not long ago and it just completely took her confidence away so thats why.
anyway the first date i didnt K-close and the second 'date' was at her parents house with them around all the time, so i couldnt realy then either.

but i was txting her a minuet ago and i asked her to promise to do something for me on thursdaay (when i see her next). she said she would and asked what it was. i didnt tell her and then she said 'is it something bad? no kisses'

now i just dont know what to think. she said she loves me and dosnt ever want me to leave her, but she dosnt want to kiss me? im just thrown. i know its probably because she has low confidence and hasnt been around guys much... but still. hard not to take it personaly and now my confidence is just gone. any tips. how do i know she is ready? she always gives loads of IoI's and we have had strong kino....

thanks guys

what kind of surgery?

spinal... after a car acident. she is 100% fine apart from a scar wich she is realy self concious about, so i was going to ask to see it so that she knew it wouldnt put me off and she can relax cus i know she worries about guys not wanting her because of it. i dont want her to feel like she has to worry about me seeing it incase i get freaked out and do a runner like the last guy she told. but now i feel like chickening out. it seemed like such a good idea. still 4 days to make up my mind if its a good idea

Anyone?

Dude dont listen to what she said. Escalate, kiss her, she likes you anyway. The worst case scenario is she turning away but you can always try again.
But my bet is when you kiss her, she would be happy because you accept her, even with the scar she's carrying.
If you have a chance, kiss her scar, I would say slow down on sexual escalation thou, let her know you're interested in her because of who she is, not because of she has low self-esteem and an easy target.

ok thanks. im sure she knows im not like that... i hope so anyway. when will i know she is ready if she is already givig ioi's? thanks

Use the kiss gambit where you ask her if she wants to kiss you. If she really likes you, she will most likely won't say no but she'll say "I'm not sure" and you can reply "let's find out" when you are in real close to her and just lay it on her.

Assume she is ready unless she makes you know otherwise. You will loose a lot more attraction by not taking action then you would by acting too much.

Again, it looks like she would love you to make her feel like a women. Make her feel desirable.

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I don't know what's wrong wuth kiss gambit, but I stopped using it after it failed me 3 times in a row.(first 3 times I used it) I managed to get back 2/3 of these times, but fuck that...now I'm about to try triangular gazing out.

*Sigh, quit asking bullshit on the forums. Instead "Just do it" and learn from it >_>. Your a man, take your own decisions. If you cant do that your a long road away from being a PUA or even good with women

After youve done that, write a rapport, keep it for yourself or post it here and ask for opinions. You'll learn from that instead of asking these kind of things.

All the knowledge come from the ones who found out the hard way.

wow... turns out it was a mistake anyway! she was refering to the no kisses on my last txt. wow im releved. gotta find a good k-close routine now. is there a list anywhere? cheers

@bowlie good luck bro. We're rooting for you...

k-closed, feels good

it always feels goof Except for the time the girl almost killed me with her tongue