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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:26 am 
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So, long story short, I'm a textbook AFC who wishes nothing more than to become a shitload more successful with women. The problem is that I really don't know where to start this journey with so many different forms of PUAs out there. What I've been getting from the "General Questions" board is that Natural Game is the way to go, but then I go on other forums and they all offer up something different.

At the risk of getting biased answers, how is an AFC supposed to distinguish between all of these different forms of PUA techniques and pick out something that is a guaranteed success with women? Is it just as simple as picking up a bunch of hobbies and naturally meeting women by just being as social as I can, or does routines and stuff work just as well, if not better?

I only inquire about this because I see such success from PUAs like Mystery or Strauss or DeAngelo and they seem to have followed some sort of structured routines that got them to where they are. Then again, I see a lot of success from you other guys who just go out there and be as social as you can.

How do I become more successful with women?


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Glad to see your into the pickup lifestyle and welcome. While my rating may not be high because im new on the forum I can tell you Ive turned many Average guys into masters before i found this. The key is how you look at the advice. DONT TAKE IT LITERALLY. Just becasue it works for mystery doesnt mean it will for you. It took me a while to figure out what peacocking works best for me (its not painted nails but flannels) and what my routines were for me (not magic but random facts) . BOTTOM LINE: read advice for basic principals and put your own twist on them. Figuring out what that is will take time so be patient and it will all work. Just find you and use it.


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how is an AFC supposed to distinguish between all of these different forms of PUA techniques and pick out something that is a guaranteed success with women? Is it just as simple as picking up a bunch of hobbies and naturally meeting women by just being as social as I can, or does routines and stuff work just as well, if not better?
1. Don't label yourself an "AFC." That's like labelling yourself a loser from the beginning, and going into every interaction assuming that you're retarded and without the "right techniques" you'll fail.

2. It IS just as simple as making an effort to be more social in every way you can - from joining clubs and doing hobbies and activities, to talking to people in cafés, on the street and in bars.

3. After a while of being more social, you'll notice that certain patterns of behaviour can lead to consistently better results (in terms of people being interested in what you have to say, wanting to meet you again, etc.) That's where the "technique" part comes in. However, the techniques only make sense in the context of a relatively normal social interaction. Telling a guy to "neg" or "dhv" will not help him if he can't hold normal eye contact, smile, and hold a somewhat entertaining conversation with someone.

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