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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:56 pm 
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...harder than 9s and 10s? Seriously, I can neg and push away a 9 or 10 and she'll be attracted to me, but a 7 or 8 will think I'm an ass. I know I should tone it down, but when I do that I end up getting no spark. I'm sick of missing out on a lot of cute/cool girls because of this. Any ideas?


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dont neg them

of you're confident enough in yourself and show it, you dont need to neg anyone..negging only shows this in a way...

just be you but have the confidence to present your interesting side to give them a chance to talk to you.the best guy around!

search for keys to the vip on youtube and look for the episode with Cajun.
he is a top mpua and you dont see him negging..he just naturally carries the confidence...some classic gaming lines in there too!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:31 am 
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9s-10s and 7-8s are different species. you really don't need to neg a 7 and it will usually be counterproductive because they have already been treated bad by people and can see the world for what it really is. If you neg a 7 she will think you do not like and accept her and are seriously trying to insult her and will be pissed off.

A 10 has been catered to her whole life and has never had anyone say anything bad to her and has people falling all over her and rolling out the red carpet for her whole life.

When you neg a 10 it is often something she has never heard her whole life and will wonder what makes you different from all the other guys.

When you neg a 7 it is something she has heard a lot and it makes you the same as all the other guys.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:35 am 
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...harder than 9s and 10s? Seriously, I can neg and push away a 9 or 10 and she'll be attracted to me, but a 7 or 8 will think I'm an ass. I know I should tone it down, but when I do that I end up getting no spark. I'm sick of missing out on a lot of cute/cool girls because of this. Any ideas?
Because you are gaming their looks and not them.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:41 am 
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9s-10s and 7-8s are different species. you really don't need to neg a 7 and it will usually be counterproductive because they have already been treated bad by people and can see the world for what it really is. If you neg a 7 she will think you do not like and accept her and are seriously trying to insult her and will be pissed off.

A 10 has been catered to her whole life and has never had anyone say anything bad to her and has people falling all over her and rolling out the red carpet for her whole life.

When you neg a 10 it is often something she has never heard her whole life and will wonder what makes you different from all the other guys.

When you neg a 7 it is something she has heard a lot and it makes you the same as all the other guys.
Making gross stereotypes like this will only hurt your game. Because I will guarantee you if you game girls base on this you will have a lower closing rate than compare to adjusting your game to the girl. Because not all 10s are the same nor are 7's. What are you going to do if run into a girl that is physically a 7 but has a personality of a 10? Game her like a 7? Or what are you going to do if you run into a girl that is a 10 that has gotten negs before game her as a 10?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:33 pm 
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9s-10s and 7-8s are different species. you really don't need to neg a 7 and it will usually be counterproductive because they have already been treated bad by people and can see the world for what it really is. If you neg a 7 she will think you do not like and accept her and are seriously trying to insult her and will be pissed off.

A 10 has been catered to her whole life and has never had anyone say anything bad to her and has people falling all over her and rolling out the red carpet for her whole life.

When you neg a 10 it is often something she has never heard her whole life and will wonder what makes you different from all the other guys.

When you neg a 7 it is something she has heard a lot and it makes you the same as all the other guys.
Making gross stereotypes like this will only hurt your game. Because I will guarantee you if you game girls base on this you will have a lower closing rate than compare to adjusting your game to the girl. Because not all 10s are the same nor are 7's. What are you going to do if run into a girl that is physically a 7 but has a personality of a 10? Game her like a 7? Or what are you going to do if you run into a girl that is a 10 that has gotten negs before game her as a 10?
A big generalization yes. And you are absolutely correct in that everyone is an individual and each individual will respond differently based on their character and prior life experiences and history.

The problem is untill you get to know someone to some degree you have no idea what that is and to a certain degree you do go on snap judgements and generalizations. some times you'll be on the money and sometimes you'll get vaporized.

I guess the point I was trying to get at is don't neg 7s. They've been kicked in the teeth and treated bad by jerks all their lives and if you come negging them you'll just look like another jerk. Is that a generalization/stereotype? Yes it is, but it is a good platform to start from and if the individual situation calls for it then you can adjust accordingly.


And just to add in a little of my own unsolicited and probably unwelcome perspective, I really don't believe in actual "negging" at all. I am quite a bit older than most of the people here, and I was just brought up in a time and place you just didn't do that. A little goodhearted teasing and banter is fine to show that you aren't intimidated or going to supplicate is fine and probably even benificial but saying something with the intent to lower someone's self-esteem is just plain rude and boarish where I come from.

The reason I commented on the thread at all in first place was because the question asked was why the results of negging 7s vs 10s was different. I offered my opinion why those different people responded differently. I really wasn't condoning negging anyone.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:04 am 
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The problem is untill you get to know someone to some degree you have no idea what that is and to a certain degree you do go on snap judgements and generalizations. some times you'll be on the money and sometimes you'll get vaporized.
Your half right. You forgot the part that one can read the girl's body language to get an idea or feel for her. You can actually get some basic info on the girl just by reading her body language. Yes you won't get intimate details about her, but you can pick up her personality to an extent, her mood etc from reading her body language. And these things can let you know if you should open with a neg or not.
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And just to add in a little of my own unsolicited and probably unwelcome perspective, I really don't believe in actual "negging" at all. I am quite a bit older than most of the people here, and I was just brought up in a time and place you just didn't do that. A little goodhearted teasing and banter is fine to show that you aren't intimidated or going to supplicate is fine and probably even benificial but saying something with the intent to lower someone's self-esteem is just plain rude and boarish where I come from.

The reason I commented on the thread at all in first place was because the question asked was why the results of negging 7s vs 10s was different. I offered my opinion why those different people responded differently. I really wasn't condoning negging anyone.
I wasn't getting you on the negging. I actually believe in negs. But I think negs should be use as needed based upon how the girl reacts/says in response to you than according to her physical looks. My whole thing here to increase ones odds in being able to close. Making such gross assumptions doesn't help you really in my opinion.


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