Some research..is this the basic stuff?



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:42 am 
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I have been doing some research on PUA and all of that, im new to the game and i was wondering if this is the Basic way a pickup would go.

1) You make eye contact, walk over and open the set.
2)Notice something about her(what she is wearing, what she said in a previouse sentence..ect) and start a conversation on that topic.
3) Keep the conversation focused on her. Everyones favorite subject is themselfs, what you have to do is SHUTUP AND LISTEN.
4)If she has a bitch sheildup neg her a bit. example(those shoes look nice, was walmart having another rollback sell) shit like that.
5)Demonstrate Higher Value to her.
6)Kino her while your talking. Example(you tell a a joke or getting into detail about a story, touch her arm, shoulder) Not ass or hips
right away. you dont want to scare her DUH!
7)If she starts to show IOIs #close,Kclose or F-close w/e one.

Is this the basic stuff? Or am i missing some details?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:28 pm 
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I'm not big on structure, but to avoid getting bogged down in situational specifics (like negs), here's a stripped down idea of the process:

1) Meet
2) Attract
3) Close

That said, the way I think about things is more:

Be attractive

1) Meet
2) Close

Now let's analyze how you broke it down:
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1) You make eye contact, walk over and open the set.

This is meeting her, via a cold approach.

2)Notice something about her(what she is wearing, what she said in a previouse sentence..ect) and start a conversation on that topic.

Not a bad suggestion in terms of how to advance a conversation but not necessary in terms of pickup, some people call this 'fluff talk'. Now to be clear here I'm assuming you're already talking, you said in your first point that you open the set. You might have just opened by saying 'hello' or maybe you opened with an elaborate opinion opener, but regardless you have engaged the set in conversation

3) Keep the conversation focused on her. Everyones favorite subject is themselfs, what you have to do is SHUTUP AND LISTEN.

Again, a decent point on successful conversation techniques, but it's not necessary to close

4)If she has a bitch sheildup neg her a bit. example(those shoes look nice, was walmart having another rollback sell) shit like that.

This is a situational tactic to try and force someone to re-evaluate you, it's not necessarily part of picking anyone up

5)Demonstrate Higher Value to her.

If you're doing things correctly you already have done this, your clothes, physique, demeanor, social proof, preselection, social skills, etc. have done and continue to do this, it's not a particular phase of picking her up

6)Kino her while your talking. Example(you tell a a joke or getting into detail about a story, touch her arm, shoulder) Not ass or hips
right away. you dont want to scare her DUH!

Kino helps establish your comfort with physical contact, it communicates that contact is a normal part of your life and that you consider touching her to a normal part of life, this is 'taking the lead' in a sense. Kino also helps make your intentions clear, you consider her a potential mate not a platonic acquaintance or something similar. Kino further helps arouse her and put her in a sexual state of mind, it leverages the natural sexual tension between men and women. All that being said, you don't even necessarily need to touch her to pick her up, but it's probably a good idea in most (maybe every) circumstance

7)If she starts to show IOIs #close,Kclose or F-close w/e one.

This is closing, my advice is to assume attraction and not look for IOIs, but that's more my style, try both.

Is this the basic stuff? Or am i missing some details?

You have a lot of good stuff in here, but I actually think you're adding in too many details not the other way around, all you need to pick someone up is to meet her and close her. Now being attractive enough for her to be successfully closed, and communicating your attractive qualities to facilitate this, is another matter.

Good luck man,



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