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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:55 pm 
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A lot of this PUA material (especially inner game stuff) I read is truly insightful. It teaches you to assign yourself a high value and to pay little importance to what others, in this case, what women might think about you.

It teaches you to let go of insecurities and to build a solid sense of inner confidence.

I'm not arguing this. Some of PUA material is truly bollocks, but a lot of it is truly useful. However, romance is unfortunately a harsh competition and for some unlucky people, all the confidence in the universe won't get a woman into bed.

I believe I am one of these unlucky. Having a hormonal condition that was not diagnosed in time, I am an adult male (23yr old) who looks very very young. My bone structure is thin and frail and most women hands are larger than mine. Due to the condition I also been fat most of my life, but thankfully due to diet and exercise I've been able to shed the weight. My voice is also very young sounding.

I've been in a process of self-betterment for a while now, trying to get rid of bad habits (like playing video games) and adapt new ones, like daily exercise and playing my instruments, and reading everyday. However, as part of this process I want to stop obsessing about what people think about me when they see me. I want to stop caring about people's opinions.

So I turned to PUA material to lose this insecurity. Reading this material, among other things, , I've been feeling better about myself. Still, I simply do not believe that I can get a woman that fits my high standards, due to my physical handicap.

Some people which I assume might read this material, might feel insecure because maybe they're a little fat, maybe they're short etc. But the severity of these does does not even compare to mine.

Unfortunately for me, I do have sex drive (maybe lower than others but it is still there) and it is a frustrating problem.

Sorry for the long post. Please comment and share you thoughts.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:15 pm 
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how long have you been in the game? Sounds like you understand the deeper issues involved and are working to get a handle on all those things. I would stick with it, it will help you in all other areas of your life so its more than just getting the girl. Nobody said it would be easy, stick with it, keep learning, keep practicing, keep evolving and you will see results.

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A lot of this PUA material (especially inner game stuff) I read is truly insightful. It teaches you to assign yourself a high value and to pay little importance to what others, in this case, what women might think about you.
Where did you find 'insightful inner game stuff'? Most inner game related material created by people in PU are delusional, uneducated guesses. it's as painful to read as watching a bored lawyer take the stage on open mic comedy nights at the local bar.
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I want to stop caring about people's opinions.
Right, people are all idiots anyways. . .
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So I turned to PUA material to lose this insecurity. Reading this material, among other things, , I've been feeling better about myself.
Is your goal to feel better or to lose your insecurities? If you want to 'feel better', go get yourself a tub of ice cream. If you want to lose your insecurities, try something else because whatever it is that you're doing is NOT working:
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Still, I simply do not believe...
Just something to ponder. . . Why do you wipe your ass after you shit? Is it because you believe that you're a master ass wiper and you know you'll do a great job of it? Are you going to pick up every dingle berry? Do you remind yourself to believe that if you don't wipe your ass, you'll stain your tighty whities?

If you think about it, wiping your ass TP is a gross act. You're sticking a paper wrapped finger back and forth your asshole and wiping off some of that smelly goo but also driving some of that smelly goo deeper into your pores. Dried shit bacteria city baby . . . Really . . . one should probably 'believe in' wiping his ass more than he should believe in pick up but I suppose this is one of those great mysteries of the World.


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A simple solution: Drop your high standards.


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A simple solution: Drop your high standards.
We do not do that here.

But yes, I suppose it is a well-practiced temporary solution

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:08 pm 
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This guy looks young and he's sure getting it!

http://youporn.com/watch/501699/threeso ... 7380&pos=6


Wee-man gets laid.

Sean Stevensonpulls.

Alot of normal guys DON'T get girls. They're too proud to even approach.


Being a player is about rising above what you thought of yourself. It's about pushing your comfort zone even when it's uncomfortable. ESPECIALLY when it's uncomfortable.

I'm sure your challenges are very difficult. I'm sure it's alot harder for YOU to get good than it is for an average dude to get good at pulling girls. This is why it's critical that you continue investing in yourself and learning and FAILING, and dealing with it, and feeling good about your successes... not bad about your screw-ups and shortcomings.

You're not even TRYING dude. You've given up before you ever even tried to get a girl to like you for you.

My best friend was paralyzed for most of his adult life. Couldn't even feel his dick. HE still pulled girls, and ate girls out, even in a wheelchair. He learned how to talk to them in a way that made them horny around him. He used humor to bring up funny sex facts and talked about porn almost full time.

EVERY girl I ever introduced to him liked the dude, and knew he got laid without even asking.

You need to find some new balls, and get out there and see what you can make happen. You have a beautiful life and you're just talking yourself out of it, over and over cuz you weren't born perfect.

Stop that shit and take action. Develop a plan for getting to where you want to be. Lower your standards for the first couple girls, just to prove to yourself that you CAN get girls... even CUTE girls to like you and want to get sexual around you.

Pickup is about FEELINGS, not looks or how tall you are. Sure, some hot club girls need to be with good looking guys. That's life.

But if you feel bad about yourself around girls, they won't give a shit about you. If you learn to turn up your personality in such a way that makes girls feel horny, then there's nothing you cant make happen. Strong feelings (in women) don't care whether you are in a wheelchair or not. Only YOU care. So that's what you need to remove.

I would recommend playing with the belief that "I can make girls feel incredibly sexy and hot, and that's why I get laid so much."

Make that your new persona and step up to life.

Good luck. Let me know if you need anything.


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Dude I'm 26 and I look about 17, but I literally don't give a shit. If it's a dealbreaker for a girl, then so be it, I don't have to talk to her. Plenty more 18-21 year olds for me :-)

Talk to Madals on here, he's also got a congenital bone condition and he's real short and shit, but he's got pretty tight game and he doesn't give a shit either.

You're already doing a lot in terms of exercise etc. to be as good as you can, so keep at that.

Basically you're problem is a limiting belief that you cannot get a girl of a certain type or rating on some scale.

Guess what, the scale is quite arbitrary and somebody else's 9 might be a 7 to you, and your 10 could be a 6 to someone else. I know it's especially true for me cuz I really like black girls and none of my friends do, so the girls I absolutely LOVE they're completely not interested in. More for me! :-)

Just go out, approach the girls you think are hot, and go into the interaction with the confidence that you are displaying your great personality and having a fun time. If she's not interested, so be it.

But going into an interaction ASSUMING she won't be interested is a recipe for a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Still, I simply do not believe that I can get a woman that fits my high standards, due to my physical handicap.

Some people which I assume might read this material, might feel insecure because maybe they're a little fat, maybe they're short etc. But the severity of these does does not even compare to mine.
Look up Stephen Hawking and check out his wife. Does the severity of his affliction compare to your's?

If you come back with "yeah but he's smart and rich." I don't care. she didn't see his bank statement. She saw that he had competance and confidence and was a person that made things happen = Alpha


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Yeah --- I can see what the original poster is saying and that just simply "confidence" and inner game can only get you so far.

BTW --- Stephan Hawking's wife looks pretty good but then again --- you would probably have to be super duper smart, famous, high status and rich to pull that off in his physical condition.

This kinda reminds me of the movie "The Tao of Steve" where he mentions that to pick up an HB you have to do something "excellent"...in normal pick up literature this is known as generating attraction or showing value.

I guess if you have a handicap that you would probably have to achieve something really big to offset the handicap. I know there's a lot of people out there who will probably say that you have some "limiting belief" or that you just have to believe in yourself etc...but realistically you have to do and show something "excellent" enough to offset the handicap.

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I know there's a lot of people out there who will probably say that you have some "limiting belief" or that you just have to believe in yourself etc...but realistically you have to do and show something "excellent" enough to offset the handicap.
Yep exactly. Trying to have confidence without being competent is just blowing smoke up your own ass. legitimate confidence comes from being competent and doing the right things. ie competence begats confidence.

The problem is a lot of guys are really competent at things most women don't give a crap about ie video games, computer porn, fishing, hunting etc.

Get competent at socializing, throwing parties, hitting the nightlife, flirting, fashion, fitness, grooming etc and you will be in the game without being a rocket scientist, pro athlete, etc


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The problem is a lot of guys are really competent at things most women don't give a crap about ie video games, computer porn, fishing, hunting etc.

Get competent at socializing, throwing parties, hitting the nightlife, flirting, fashion, fitness, grooming etc and you will be in the game without being a rocket scientist, pro athlete, etc
Unfortunately --- honestly --- I think the severity of this guy's condition might make it real hard to get parties going or finding friends.

This does remind me about a guy I met at a karaoke bar who sings really well BUT he had a hormal condition that caused his bones to be frail and to be very underweight and requiring many surgeries...BUT he had a fairly large entourage of hotties and friends. I believe this is partly due to his singing abilities (he was a Canadian Idol contestant) and was working with some girls putting his album together and marketing his talent.

I would suggest that he do somethig like start his own business --- preferably one that is "cool". He just has to get extra competent at stuff that are attraction switches.

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