From your own experience, what PUA methods and concepts have you had the MUST success (Lays) with?

RSD teachings? LS? Pure MM? Strong framing etc?

natural = be yourself, usually drunk

Be natural stay within your "League".

all these "gurus" dont date hb10's its all the proof is on puahate.com

that being said I do think you can increase your chances if your a 8 you can augment your wardrobe and personality to get a hb10, if your a 6 or 7 maybe you could get a 7-9, maybe.

and remember its a numbers game!

Definitely a #'s game as Rvais said.

But to stay on topic.

I've had the most success with Tyler Durden & RSD stuff.

But I had success with Mystery Method too.

Love Systems(Love Drop)I learned a lot from too.

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MM for a good bit of success, RSD got me a lot aswell, but I mix them up for the most success

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its more about what works for you rather then what works. things that work for one person may not work for another.
im an introvert so using mm and 'being a natural' arent really options or me i dont really have natural charm so i have to compensate. if i was naturally good with women i wouldnt have joined the pick up community, i agree with neil strauss' rant about naturals teaching unnaturals i dont consider myself cool, great looking or to have an awesome lifestyle so teaching me how if i have these things i can get laid is irrelevant, so it doesnt help me
i mix things up and use what works for me so ill use speed seduction, some mm, and use other stuff.
so what i am saying use what works for you dont just rely on one train of thought

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Exactly, good post, I'd still recommend both "The Game" and "Rules of the Game" to any AFC to read just for the mentality alone, Rules is especailly good up to the 29th day, which isn't overly recomended to begin tbh.

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i agree with SCB to begin with read the game i would be willing to bet 99% of guys on here have read it and the 1% should read it, yes its material maybe overused but its a great read in the sense that anyone can learn this and get laid, but i do think that anyone who learns to do pickup should think about consequences as well as actions. so some of the consequences that strauss encounters in both the game and rules of the game (the second half) should be thought about.
adam lyons said something during a seminar that has stuck with me in pickup which is this: be careful what you do, you may have the ability to break up someones relationship, if you approach a girl and shes in a relationship and your not that into her, its then not fair to break up that relationship then break up with her because your not that interested because now you have wrecked both sides just for a bit of fun. is sex more important to you then screwing up the emotional lives of 2 people

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Direct + having FUN

I got very limited success with MM3 as compared to now. Unless you are really comfortable in clubs and already relatively socially calibrated and already know a few high-value people or are really good at making friends easily, I don't think starting off with club game is really a good idea for most guys starting out.

A "neg" coming from a guy nervously sipping his drink standing at the bar by himself will just come off like a socially awkward guy attempting a compliment and failing, or just insulting her. They are one of the many things about MM3 that I think really hold a lot of guys back.

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@SCB-For the most part,I mix them up also like you.

Rather than methods,I more learn from coaches of all different methods.

I learned a lot fromm the Canadian coach Mcmaax.

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