I NEVER pay for a women on the first date, i make them pay for me.
The next date i could agree to split the tab, but usually, once again they are the ones to pay.

Is this being cheap? Or is it fair? - Because i am very much against paying for a women i just meet.

I ALWAYS pay on the first date... that is, if I take them anywhere lame that requires payment in the first place.

Dates circling around places that involve money are usually cliche, and she has done them millions of times before. Take her somewhere FUN and ORIGINAL!

Yeah i know.. But i do not know where i should take her elsewere

Well, on my dates, I usually take the girl to three-four different places on ONE date. This makes her FEEL like she has been on more than one date with me and builds 4x the comfort and intimacy, making it easy to get a lay (if I so choose to) on a first date.

If your idea of a date is dinner and a movie, sure the girl may say she had fun, but really, that's just out of pity for you, because that's the same old shit all guys do with her.

A good date has a sense of adventure, it's not planned out. Obviously, the time of pickup is, like "I'm picking you up at 6" that should be the only planned part of your date. And it's okay if your a few minutes late. Actually, sometimes you can be late on purpose and make up something. If she's a HB 10 this works good.

Basically, your dates should SEEM totally spontaneous to HER. But YOU have it all planned out.

When she asks what are we doing say something like "I don't know yet, we will find something fun to do." or "Well, we are going on an adventure, of course .
We is a powerful word.

You can take her to the beach, or to a nice romantic spot, to a park, things like that that most guys don't do with her. The point is to keep your dates original and she will stay with you for sure.

Good luck.

I have been planing for a long while to do something "Special" on my dates, but my problem is, i have NOO Clue what i could do.

this is something i have to improve within my game!

Thanks for the post (:!

I say cheap primary because you are making the girl pay for you then on the next date you split the bill. Its okay not to pay for a girl you just met, but you look better if you split the bill on the first date or pay for each other. You won't look cheap.

Okay, I will Try splitting the bill from now on, and see what happens.

- But the thing is, that the way i do my "day 2's" is by telling them - in a teasing tone - that they should invite me out on a muffin/choko/coffe.

But i will start splitting the tab, and see what happens (;

i guess if it works for you, that's fine, but i personally pay for the first date. after that, they can pay or we can split
i think taking turns paying would be a good idea, as you've only "just met her" on your first date. you've agreed to spend more time with her for the second, you should return the favor