i wanted to put this in the Sticking Point section, but on reading the posting rules there well... nevermind lol

this is killing me from even trying cold approaches at all. but without that, then there's no fucking point learning the game.

my question is: say the approach fails, then what? how do you walk away with grace?

the specific situation:
so i was out with my best friend and her friends (so all girls plus me and another guy who's also our best mate). now i wasn't interested in any of her friends; weren't bad looking, but not so much good looking either. anyway the point is, so we were sitting there in a booth, and then these two HB8.5's sat beside our booth. they looked old, around a "cougar-ish" age (i'm just 20), so i guess that made it even more intimidating.

now see i think my sticking point is not that i'm afraid to get blown out. in fact, i've accepted that, as someone starting out in PUA, i need to experience as much rejection as possible, so that's not the problem.

the problem is: after the rejection, how do i act? how do i gracefully eject? cuz imagine, they're just sitting there next to us, with my oh-so judgmental friends watching (my best friend is the type of bitchy-hater girl). and ok i get rejected cool, but how do i go back to my booth without feeling awkward and embarrassed? especially given that their table is just beside us!

thanks, im hoping for a reply here, this is really bothering me

Well since no one will hear what is said when you go over there. If they blow you away.. just come back to the table and say. They told you they were both married or something. Or they told you they don't date younger guys but you are cute. Don't be embarrassed. You just stepped to females way older than you and if anything, your friends should be giving you mad respect for having the guts to even do that much. Think of the hundreds of guys on here that still can't even meet and greet a girl let alone 2 or 3 of them!

aryt thanks bro. i guess the situation then was too specific; the girls' table was way too close, my friends could probably hear what i'd be talking about if i went there. but yeah generally this is not so anyway.

plus one last thing, say you get blown away there... how do you exit? just say, "pleasure talking to ya" politely and return?

Yeah, you basically just want to politely leave before too much damage has been dealt.

However, if they blew you off like complete bitches then I personally would've sarcastically said 'Nice talking to you then!' - although that not be the best advice...

I just hate cold bitches

If you're not used to doing cold approaches, don't start out by doing them in front of your friends. Think about working on approach anxiety the same way you think about working out. If you do TOO MUCH, then you risk injury. If you do TOO LITTLE, you won't challenge yourself enough to develop.

I usually just smile and walk away. As you do more approaches, you'll naturally know what to do when you get rejected.
indeed, the truth to PUA is that you never learn to avoid failure, only to overcome it. The more you experience rejection, the more desensitized you will become to approach anxiety
Learning the game is not just about learning how to cold approach. You could argue that it applies even more to relationships / LTRs. It is all-encompassing, every single one of your interactions with another person is based on social dynamics.

Lastly, you don't always have to approach with the intention of closing. Sometimes, approach simply to approach. I e; don't even give them a chance to reject you. In the scenario you described before, if you approached a set quickly in front of the other girls, you simply show that you have balls. Walk by and neg another girl or start talking to a girl next to you and immediately disqualify.

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cool thanks again bros repped

Yea Red, I'm here to tell you. I'm a newbie to this PUA world altogether. But i'm a Pro when it comes to Game as a True Pimp. And trust me... in my world, 80% of all the girls that I have every approached not only to pickup but also to bring bread back is VERY VERY VERY HARD! I mean... we expect to get rejected 80% of the time from the ladies. In fact when the dude that taught me this pimpin game.... he told me from the start that my recruiting rate would be very very low. But he also said that in time your game will only get better, because you will start to think of new ways to get that bitch. And after 10 yrs of being in this game. I know he was right. I can pull bitches anywhere. And just as your founder Mystery stated. Strippers are the hardest. But once you can pull them on a content basis. You know you pretty much mastered the art in many ways. So my advice is don't stop maan. Don't worry about your friends and buddies. You are in this shit for YOURSELF not THEM! Forget what they think and if they laugh or if you feel embarrassed right now. In time... it is Them that will be coming to you for advice with game and asking you can they come to YOUR Party because you got all the ladies. This is real talk... as i'm living it all today!

Da Lionheart

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Heck out Captain Jack and his material.
The frame I found as being helpful is "Let's mess with them". That way if you get blown out, not even them will tell the difference that it wasn't your intent in the first place. Makes for a funny story as well!

Keep in mind that they don't know you the way "YOU" know you (if that makes sense) Basically, you can be or act any way you know and they won't know the difference. Be super goofy, super serious, playful, or sexual!

If your buddies put you down, leave them home...

If they are cool with a little bar game, here's what you do:
1. ask one of your buddies to make up a character (bugs bunny, Morpheus, Jack Sparrow etc...)
2. ask your other buddy to make up a pick up line (anything flies as long as not derogatory or awfully insulting)
3. draw straw or rock-paper-scissors who has to approach as abovementioned character and use a pickup line.
whomever chickens out buys a round of drinks for everybody haha. if you got balls your friends pay for your drinks!

bottom line is have fun, the world is your playground.

hopefully this helps,

Al