I had two girls on day2s recently (individually, the were 2 day 2s with one girl each) and they both told me that they think that I am a nice guy. And that although I am intelligent, handsome etcetcetc it makes me not a prefect guy to date, because I am a nice guy.

What makes a guy a nice guy? If I am a nice guy, how do you stop being one?

Should I treat them like bad girls? Should I neg them more? Should I kino them on their butt on day2? Or behave like I want to fuck them on public toilet by telling them directly one the first date?

When people hear stop being a nice guy they often stop doing ANYTHING for a girl. That's not the point....

It's the motivation of being a nice guy that disgusts women.


It's usually the suck-up, reaction seeking behaviour of men that repels women.

PLEASE LIKE ME, PLEASE LIKE ME, YES I'LL TALK ABOUT YOUR PURSE EVENTHOUGH I FIND IT COMPLETELY BORING, I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU FUCKING TELL ME TO DO, ASLONG AS YOU LIKE ME.

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Use your head, don't try overcompensating by acting like a dickhead towards girls, doesn't work either.

Yeah...

You have to risk breaking rapport.

Attraction is built when you break rapport.

It's all about taking a risk and creating sexual tension. Without sexual tension there is no attraction.

On the flip side of the coin. You could be broke and ugly BUT if you can create sexual tension you're IN IN IN.

From your point of view, you need to re-assess the date. What could you have done to kino YES, what could you have done to illicit sexual tension. Did you flirt? Did you lead, did you isolate?

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Now dont take this the wrong way since I dont know you, but from personal experience from my earlier HS days, "Nice" means "weak" or "boring"

You may have come off as too needy, or not interesting enough. Either way, dont sweat it

This should help you a lot
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Actually, niceguyism isn't what you need to avoid. Admittedly, I still feel a twinge of discomfort when a girl says to me 'You seem nice' or whatever, but intrinsically, it's not negative... all being called 'nice' means is that you've built good comfort and rapport. They feel they can be open with you. This is a good thing.

Instead, look for IOIs and make a log of them in your mind; monitor kino, note how often you tease her and how she responds. Compliance test her; throw your arms around her from the back and see how she responds, then push her away and call her a sket. Playfully.

I love day 2s. Sometimes, if they're from online, your day 1 actually becomes a day 2; you should treat online game meet ups as day 2s. A day 2 should be ALL ABOUT ESCALATION. This is why, whenever you meet a girl for a day 2, you should be doing absolutely nothing. No coffee, no dinner, whatever. Tell her you're taking her on an adventure. If she asks where, tell her the great thing about adventures is that you don't have to plan them.

If you're wandering around aimlessly with her, you can focus on very naturally building deep rapport with her (see Gambler's stuff) and on escalation.

I would venture that it's a profound lack of escalation that's making you seem like a 'nice guy'.

She won't call you a nice guy if the air is thick with sexual tension.

Sky