I have this friend .He's a really attractive guy. And has a huge muscular body. Probably could pickup on looks alone.

He liked this hb 8 or 9. And started convo with her in our college class. Soon a relationship looked liked it could form. And I love watching other people's game.

He moved and sat next to her each day in class. They would chat after class. Then we had a group project in D.C. He chilled with her non stop and never gave her breathing room. He was carrying bags, keeping her warm, massages, and ALWAYS around.

She and her girlfriend started teasing him calling him a stage 5 clinger. She even mentioned to me that she was using him. I saw his window of opportunity open and close because he gave her too much attention.

I wanted to help him but he wouldn't let me, and he couldn't even take her little and not so little hints.

Part of starting a relationship is doing this little push and pull dance. Some girls need to feel like they are being chased. And you my have to do a little extra chasing.

But pushing too hard is a a mistake that any one can easily make. I would like to start a discussion on how much push is too much and how can you tell if you're being needy? Are there any clear lines? Or is every girl different?

Personally man all I have to say is Balance.

You dont want too much but you dont want too little. No matter what style of pickup your using giving too much will always backfire because like she already did in this example she will take you for granted. He was right in making the first move but he should just chill out now before he loses a chance with her and ends up LJBF.

And on how to tell if your being needy or not is a qualification thing in my opinion. The girls I talk to even when they end up as my girl im not afraid to "test" them. Based on their answers to any number of tests I can tell subconsciouly what their feeling and if im coming on to them the right way..girls do this too thats why most of the hot ones are so good at not being needy. So in my opinion intuition is the answer

-Aiden

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I have to agree with this

could I get an example or idea of what your test are so i can make up my own?[/quote]

You can be direct and say "What do you like about me?" The more vivid her answer the better your doing. Like if she says "Your eyes, your hair" or "the way you do( something) to me or the way you make me feel" and like keeps listing shit lol. Often if she hesitates and says something stupid just to be kind or says "Your a real nice guy" you fd it up.

Or you can be really cool with it and say "Do you think I could get with (some famous celebirity whos way out of your leauge)?"

Now thats not needy at all. If your gaming her right your value should be higher than hers and she'll respond positively. You should have her thinking that YOU COULD GET WITH THAT REALLY HOT CHICK and that shes not as special as the next girl. Thats classic game for you and thats a classic way to get her to qualify to you. If not shell just laugh and probably not say anything like shell have this face like omg he has no chance with me or her or shell straight out tell you that you have NO chance lol

Basically you have to game her and make her feel good.
But you also have to keep her on her toes by not giving too much of yourself away for free
Balance man!

-Aiden

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aiden k. baker