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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:58 pm 
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Hey guys, new here. Quick recap of my life: I didn't start getting laid till around 2 years ago when I got in shape and bought clothes that look good on me. The handful of girls I have fucked have mostly been sluts for one night stands or friends with benefits on occasion. Neither is that great of a situation to me, call me old-fashioned. A girl who was also an AFC, who I failed to properly seduce, became my girlfriend for a year but moved on when she secured her own place in a social circle that she didn't need me anymore. I was devastated for months and only now I wanna get back out there.

My problem, in addition to having terrible game but a goofy charm, is that I fear the number close. I will screw it up by basically saying "come out to such and such event" which is weaksauce friend shit or "let's do something some time" without articulating what I want from this because I'm not confident enough to know what that is. I have never just picked up a girl, gone out on a date, and closed. I always take the easy way out by screwing chicks who want it now and then wonder why there is no future in it.

So any tips of how I can get over my fear of rejection and get them digits in a legit way?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:23 pm 
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Facing your fears is how you conquer them, every time you push your comfort zone you internalize the knowledge that you won't burst into flames if she shuts you down, and more often then not they say yes anyway.

You seem like the kind of guy that values enjoying spending time with a woman outside the times when her vagina is wrapped around your penis, that is, my kind of guy. So, think of events and activities that you enjoy and let those be the starting places for your number closes:

"Do you like [band]? They're coming to town and I'm going to check them out, what's your number? I'll contact you and we'll make it happen"


Remember, you're a normal guy (presumably) who won't go creepy stalker mode, and who won't text 5000 times a day, you're exactly the kind of guy that she wants to give her number to. Being aware of this opens up a more direct approach:

*She does something good* (laughs at your joke, touches you, responds positively to your touch, whatever)

"I like your style, *hands over phone* put your number in here cutie"


Confidence is knowing you're in a good position relative to getting what you want and acting on that knowledge. If you've put in the heavy lifting (being in shape/well groomed, having a positive attitude, cultivating an interesting life filled with adventure) you're a fucking catch, you're the guy that chicks bitch to their friends that they can't seem to find. I get a kind of smirk on my face when I think about this sort of stuff, the kind of look you might get if you were about to hand someone a hundred dollar bill as a random act of benevolence, you're doing her a favor by being interested in her enough to want to get to know her better, so do her that favor and get her number.

Good luck man,


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:15 pm 
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Get rejected often! The more the better. Lesson to be learned: rejection doesn't matter, it's meaningless except to the extent you learn what you should not do again next time. Unless you can fix your inner game independently, the best way to get over anxiety is to keep doing what causes that anxiety.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:56 pm 
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Hey guys, new here. Quick recap of my life: I didn't start getting laid till around 2 years ago when I got in shape and bought clothes that look good on me. The handful of girls I have fucked have mostly been sluts for one night stands or friends with benefits on occasion. Neither is that great of a situation to me, call me old-fashioned. A girl who was also an AFC, who I failed to properly seduce, became my girlfriend for a year but moved on when she secured her own place in a social circle that she didn't need me anymore. I was devastated for months and only now I wanna get back out there.

My problem, in addition to having terrible game but a goofy charm, is that I fear the number close. I will screw it up by basically saying "come out to such and such event" which is weaksauce friend shit or "let's do something some time" without articulating what I want from this because I'm not confident enough to know what that is. I have never just picked up a girl, gone out on a date, and closed. I always take the easy way out by screwing chicks who want it now and then wonder why there is no future in it.

So any tips of how I can get over my fear of rejection and get them digits in a legit way?
Point your phone at their damn heart and tell them to put their number in. Pointing the phone close to their heart will make them more likely to grab it and commanding them is also good. While she's at it, talk about different things.

It also depends on how you look man. You say you got in shape and have good clothes now. So I assume you look buff and tough. ACT that way. Meaning, be direct and say, "Let's go to XX restaurant" or something. Tell them exactly where you're taking them it shows confidence that you already know what it is and don't use all that indirect crap that guys do. This should be an expected way for you to act from the girls if you really do have a tough look to you. If you don't, then it will still work and to an even greater effect.


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Hey guys, new here. Quick recap of my life: I didn't start getting laid till around 2 years ago when I got in shape and bought clothes that look good on me. The handful of girls I have fucked have mostly been sluts for one night stands or friends with benefits on occasion. Neither is that great of a situation to me, call me old-fashioned. A girl who was also an AFC, who I failed to properly seduce, became my girlfriend for a year but moved on when she secured her own place in a social circle that she didn't need me anymore. I was devastated for months and only now I wanna get back out there.

My problem, in addition to having terrible game but a goofy charm, is that I fear the number close. I will screw it up by basically saying "come out to such and such event" which is weaksauce friend shit or "let's do something some time" without articulating what I want from this because I'm not confident enough to know what that is. I have never just picked up a girl, gone out on a date, and closed. I always take the easy way out by screwing chicks who want it now and then wonder why there is no future in it.

So any tips of how I can get over my fear of rejection and get them digits in a legit way?
Point your phone at their damn heart and tell them to put their number in. Pointing the phone close to their heart will make them more likely to grab it and commanding them is also good. While she's at it, talk about different things.

It also depends on how you look man. You say you got in shape and have good clothes now. So I assume you look buff and tough. ACT that way. Meaning, be direct and say, "Let's go to XX restaurant" or something. Tell them exactly where you're taking them it shows confidence that you already know what it is and don't use all that indirect crap that guys do. This should be an expected way for you to act from the girls if you really do have a tough look to you. If you don't, then it will still work and to an even greater effect.
LOL ROFL COPTER. POINT IT AT THE HEART BRO!!!!!!


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To the heart, did that today and it was more than a little awkward lol. I should give more info about myself to see if it helps any: I'm in shape but I don't have a buff build, i have been called wiry as a shit test. I have a cool stiched up scar from fighting some guys a few months ago that is not too noticeable anymore but above my brow. So that's kinda tough. I think I look attractive thanks to my grooming and strong chin but that is up to interpretation.

I think my biggest hurtle, apart from my crappy game right now, is a bitterness toward women (hence my name) for treating me like second-rate garbage all the time despite all the good, fun shit I try to do. I know that being the man means not giving a shit about those things, but often I can overcompensate for my worries and take this who cares attitude too far and be a jerk and turn people off. How can I be cocky without taking it too far?


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To the heart, did that today and it was more than a little awkward lol. I should give more info about myself to see if it helps any: I'm in shape but I don't have a buff build, i have been called wiry as a shit test. I have a cool stiched up scar from fighting some guys a few months ago that is not too noticeable anymore but above my brow. So that's kinda tough. I think I look attractive thanks to my grooming and strong chin but that is up to interpretation.

I think my biggest hurtle, apart from my crappy game right now, is a bitterness toward women (hence my name) for treating me like second-rate garbage all the time despite all the good, fun shit I try to do. I know that being the man means not giving a shit about those things, but often I can overcompensate for my worries and take this who cares attitude too far and be a jerk and turn people off. How can I be cocky without taking it too far?
Brace yourself, because here comes my best self help, how-to-become-the-person-you've-always-wanted-to-be advice. Instead of trying to play it cool and pretend not to give a shit, fix your head so you actually don't give a shit. Then you won't overcompensate, nor will you have to put on an act all the time. My recommended course of therapy? Go out alone, at least twice a week and make new friends--guys and girls. Don't focus on trying to PU at this point. You'll develop a much better social persona, stop worrying about what others may think, and acquire better interpersonal skills. Everything else will come naturally, believe me.


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